Two of the most powerful clergy in Britain launch stinging attack on Archbishop over sharia row
Last updated at 23:52pm on 10.02.08Two of the most powerful figures in the church today united to launch a stinging attack on the Archbishop of Canterbury after his comments on sharia law.
As pressure mounted on Dr Rowan Williams, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, insisted that migrants must obey the British legal system.
Meanwhile, Lord Carey, a former Archbishop of Canterbury, claimed any adoption of sharia would be "disastrous" for Britain.
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Holy alliance: Lord Carey (left) claims sharia would be 'disastrous' for Britain while Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor said migrants 'must obey British laws'
He went on: "He (Dr Williams) has overstated the case for accommodating Islamic legal codes.
"His conclusion that Britain will eventually have to concede some place in law for aspects of sharia is a view I cannot share.
"There can be no exceptions to the laws of our land which have been so painfully honed by the struggle for democracy and human rights."
Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Lord Carey went on to claim multiculturism had created Islamic ghettos and that the introduction of sharia would only lead to more demands from the Muslim community.
"This is absolutely inevitable, since questions to do with the separation of 'church and state' are largely new to Islam. Sharia law trumps civil law every time," he wrote.
"Many Muslim interpreters of sharia believe that it supersedes secular law and assume that its 'God-given' status would lead to the point of eventually replacing civil law."
He then went on to claim it disadvantaged women and minorities and went against human rights.
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor added his criticisms and went on to urge Muslims to do more to integrate.
"The extent to which multiculturalism has been encouraged recently has meant a lessening of the kind of unity that a country needs.
"There are common values which are part of the heritage of this country which should be embraced by everybody.
"I don't believe in a multi-cultural society. When people come into this country they have to obey the laws of the land."
Last night, the Archbishop of Canterbury was battling to salvage his authority after the outcry over his remarks on Islamic law reached the highest levels of the Church of England.
As Dr Rowan Williams tried to claim his comments had been misrepresented, two bishops dealt a blow to the attempted fightback by adding their voices to the criticism.
It leaves the country's most senior churchman facing a crucial test of his support at a meeting of the General Synod, his ruling body, tomorrow.
At least two members of the Synod have called for him to resign, and the storm has forced him to hastily rewrite his Presidential address.
The row started when Dr Williams gave a lecture and interview on Thursday calling for parts of sharia law – the legal and social code that guides Muslims in their daily life – to be recognised in the UK.
However, the Archbishop has vowed not to resign over his controversial comments.
"He is not considering his position," church spokeswoman Marie Papworth said, adding that Williams would not be speaking publicly about the issue until Monday, when he was due to address the General Synod, the church's governing body.
Yesterday he tried to calm the situation by placing on his website a selectively edited account of his words, insisting that he had "made no proposals for sharia, and certainly did not call for its introduction as some kind of parallel jurisdiction".
But a transcript of his BBC radio interview on Thursday shows him stating that the application of sharia in the UK was "unavoidable ...it's not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system".
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Dr Rowan Williams: now battling to salvage his authority
"We should be extremely cautious about welcoming sharia law into Britain," he said.
"British law has been built upon Judaeo-Christian foundations over many centuries and established through Parliament and our courts and I don't think that should be undermined. British law ought to apply to everyone in Britain, Muslim or not."
He was echoed by the Bishop of Rochester, the Right Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, who said Dr Williams's proposals would be "impossible" to implement and would disturb "the integrity of the legal tradition that is rooted in the quite different moral and spiritual vision deriving from the Bible".
Alison Ruoff, a member of the General Synod, added to the pressure when she said he was no longer "the right man for the job". She said of his speech: "At best it was politically inept and at worst it was sheer foolishness. Christians, particularly in Islamic countries who are being severely persecuted, are really incredibly upset."
Politicians stepped tentatively into the furore. Labour MP Chris Bryant, who was taught at theological college by Dr Williams, said the Archbishop had been ill-advised.
He said: "I can see how he can have come to have had an academic discussion but being the Archbishop of Canterbury you are not just an academic. I like British law, if I am honest. Our respect for the individual and the ideas of rights and responsibilities – they are fine ideas."
In his rewritten address to the crunch Synod meeting, Dr Williams is expected to express regret over the row – although he has told friends that he remains surprised by the scale of the controversy.
The General Synod can remove a bishop if a 12-strong disciplinary committee agree on the sanction. According to rules drawn up in 1996, it is constrained from disciplining members over "doctrinal" differences.
There are only four grounds for making a complaint: breaching ecclesiastical law, failing to do something required by ecclesiastical law, neglecting to perform the duties of office and conduct inappropriate to the clergy.
But last night a spokesman for Lambeth Palace said: "The Archbishop has done nothing to contravene any of these."
The spokesman claimed to be unaware of the methods by which an archbishop could be sacked. The last Archbishop of Canterbury to resign was Simon Langham in 1368, due to a disagreement with King Edward III.
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Two bishops made moves to calm the situation. The Bishop of Liverpool, the Right Rev James Jones, called for both sides to debate the issues sensibly in order to avoid further splits.
"Writing in an academic context, the Archbishop did raise serious issues that need careful consideration because of their sensitivity and preponderance to disrupt rather than enhance social cohesion," he said.
Meanwhile, the Bishop of Southwell, the Right Rev George Cassidy, rounded on Dr Williams's critics.
"I am saddened and dismayed that when the Archbishop of Canterbury was invited to open and resource a public debate, the aim of which was to build a more vibrant and cohesive society, he is then subjected to hysterical knee-jerk reaction," he said.
"The Archbishop can count on the support of all serious-minded people who are prepared to tackle the challenges of our complex society."
Police are now believed to have taken steps to protect the Archbishop of Canterbury following concern that he could be the target of attack – although he is said to have turned down the offer of round-the-clock personal protection.
It is understood Mike Fuller, the Chief Constable of Kent, expressed concern as soon as he learnt of the furore over the comments.
A Kent Police spokeswoman would not discuss the details.
Reader views (10)
The Archbishop does is NOT "entitled" to misrepresent those who brought him to where he is today. He has misrepresented. If he wants to digress, then he should step down and go somewhere where he can publish anything he desires.
It is long since time for him to go.
- Kman, Wa. State, US
The "Archbishop" represents those ideologies and peoples that brought him to the position he in. He has no "right" to digress radically from those positions that brought him to where he is currently at.
It is the same for any politician who sells out to the people who voted them in or the ideals they professed to follow.
- Kman, Wa. State, US
Those who haven't a clue over what true Christianity stands for are not qualified to comment on how we should adapt our culture to others.
Fot those who attack Christians as hypocrites, it would be the supreme hypocrisy to suggest we should dumb down who Jesus Christ was and what he taught. To suggest so, is incredibly ignorant of any awareness of what the real church stands for.
I'm not sure just how different "our times" are. The same old degradation of society and governments of past great nations is now reassembling their ugly heads. Britain, the U.S., Canada, and all the rest are trotting right on down identical roads. There is much incredible blindness to the lessons of history.
- Kman, Wa. State, US
Someone in the UK should look up Sharia law on divorce: civil divorce, Religious divorce. It is obvious the Archbishop hasn't studied in depth the consequences of Sharia law or he wouldn't have even considered it.
- Angela Rigby, Daylesford, Australia
Quote "The Archbishop can count on the support of all serious-minded people". Sorry for not being a serious minded person. He should go.
I think King Henry II summed it up perfectly.
- Les, Essex, UK
Williams used to be just a relatively harmless fuddy-duddy: a wrong appointment, but a silly figure who wouldn't do any real damage to the Church.
Now, however, he is showing himself to be extremely dangerous and radical, and has espoused an idea that could damage the entire UK. He is not a true Christian.
He should resign. That he has not done so shows his malicious intent, in my humble opinion.
- Leeanne Jones, UK
Having read both the lecture and BBC interview on the Archbishop of Canterbury website it seems to me that the reaction is out of all proportion to what the Archbishop actually said. It is also sad to read Lord Carey's comment that "There can be no exceptions to the laws of our land which have been so painfully honed by the struggle for democracy and human rights." The very fact that our laws are a result of a painful struggle demonstrates that they have had to adapt to changing circumstances. They need to continue so to do if they are to continue to be appropriate to the needs of the age in which we live. The very fact that in some countries there are laws and punishments that seem barbaric in the modern age is a clear demonstration of the dangers inherent in casting laws in stone and refusing to contemplate change. If Lord Carey and Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor believe that the current British legal and social system is perfect and needs no modification then in my view they are as out of touch with reality as they accuse the Archbishop of being. We should continually strive to adopt the best features of the rich variety of cultures the human race has devised whilst at the same time rejecting the worst. No culture yet has a system so good it cannot improve by learning from others. If our painful struggle for democracy and human rights has resulted in an inability to tolerate suggestions that we should consider change then the struggle has been in vain.
- G Hawker, Malaga, Spain
The Archbishop is entitled to his views and thosse who cannot tolerate that should just go and settle on Mars...
- W Joseph, London, England
Rowan Williams is a fool, he should resign or be sacked as soon as possible. He does nothing to promote Christianity, instead he degrades it and there is no place for him in the modern church.
- Casper Slides, Bath, UK
He should go. A classic case of a first-class intellect combined with low common sense, a phenomenon all to common among the legal, political and religious establishments of this country.
- Richard, London, UK
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