'I made no deals': Brown denies buying off MPs as Peers vow to reject counter-terror Bill
Last updated at 16:06pm on 12.06.08
Gordon Brown denied the claims that he bought off MPs over the terror Bill
Gordon Brown today angrily denied that he had "bought" victory in the 42-days vote by making an unprincipled deal with Northern Ireland MPs.
"There were no deals," the Prime Minister insisted at a press conference that was dogged by sceptical questions about how he engineered his nine-vote win in the Commons.
Allegations were flying around Westminster that Mr Brown sanctioned a fortune of extra public money for the province to secure the nine Democratic Unionist Party votes.
In dramatic scenes after the 315 to 306 result was announced, Conservatives jeered "you've been bought" at the Ulster contingency.
Mr Brown made clear he felt the accusation was an insult to himself and the DUP who, he said, had made their decision purely on the arguments.
"There was no deal. There was no deal with the Democratic Unionist Party, no deal with the Ulster unionists generally," he said.
"And I think for people to imply that is to take away from the strength of the argument about the need to tackle terrorism."
He said the accusers were "impugning the reputation of people who are concerned about terrorism".
No MPs were more aware of the dangers of terrorism than the DUP, who have lived with IRA attacks for decades.
He went on: "And I believe that the people who voted for this voted on principle because they are persuaded by the argument."
But Mr Brown's victory was looking hollow today as members of the Lords said they would overturn the counter-terror Bill.
Michael Martin reads the results of the controversial vote to the House of Commons

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Rebel Labour peers promised the plan to hold suspects for up to 42 days without charge faced a " roasting" at the hands of a lethal alliance in the Lords.
Critics also claimed the concessions handed out by the Prime Minister to appease MPs had left the package wide open to legal challenges if it ever reached the statute books.
Baroness Kennedy, the Labour peer and civil rights campaigner, said: "The Prime Minister might find he is getting a bit of a roasting at the other end of Parliament.
"The House of Lords will chew this up - and the difference is that the Government does not have a majority in the Upper House."
She warned: "There will be a very significant Labour rebellion."
Former Attorney General Lord Goldsmith said the "thinness of the Commons majority" justified the Lords blocking the Bill.
He attacked it as a "symbol of political virility" for Mr Brown and revealed for the first time that he would have resigned if plans for 90-day detentions had not been quashed in the Commons two years ago.
Vowing to oppose 42-day detentions, the peer criticised Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for suggesting he was a late convert.
"I opposed 90 days when in government," he said. "I lost within government but I could not have voted for it and I would have resigned."
The widespread view was that Mr Brown had used up part of his authority to survive the vote. In the end 36 Labour MPs rebelled - a greater number than Labour's election majority.
London MPs were at the forefront of the revolt but other rebels were allegedly bought off with promises that ranged from compensation for sick miners and possible payouts to anyone wrongly detained.
More outlandish deals were said to involve help for one MP in getting a safe seat at the next election, easing sanctions on Cuba and even haggling over the governorship of Bermuda.
Shadow home secretary David Davis, who today announced his resignation as an MP, said: "We won the argument, the Government bought the votes."
The Conservatives claimed the rumoured deals added up to £1.2billion of public money, with the biggest sums going on higher spending in Northern Ireland.
During the debate, Hackney North MP Ms Abbott accused the Prime Minister of running a "grubby bazaar" to buy votes.
She said ministers were "playing ducks and drakes with civil liberties" for the sake of short-term gain in the polls.
The close-run Commons vote will make it harder for the Prime Minister to impose his will in the Lords.
Mr Brown is willing to use the Parliament Act if necessary to overturn any defeats by peers but this is usually reserved for cases where the Commons has shown a settled will.
Former health secretary Mr Dobson urged the Lords to stand firm, saying: "If you drew up their job specification, I think standing up for ancient liberties and the Magna Carta must rank high."
Today, speaking on Radio 4, DUP MP Gregory Campbell warned that his party would continue to exercise its new-found power over the Government.
Gordon Brown's costly Commons victory on anti-terror laws was today threatened with being overturned.
Rebel Labour peers promised a 'roasting' for the plan to hold suspects up to 42 days without charge at the hands of a lethal alliance of heavyweight critics in the House of Lords.
At the same time, critics claimed the series of concessions handed out by the Prime Minister to appease MPs had left the package wide open to legal challenges if it ever made the statute books.
Reader views (15)
The present occupant of 10 Downing Street has that great quality that the address's other recent occupants have had in spades - how to be a bald-faced liar. Unfortunately, when Brown lies he isn't capable of mustering the smirk and wink that Tony Blair perfected. One of Brown's huge faults is that he can't lie with charm - an essential for any successful politician.
- Phil Jones, London UK
Isn't there another national leader somewhere who believes in seemingly endless internment without trial, a poison dwarf in the southern hemisphere? Power available is power available to be used to its maximum, whenever convenient; power to be abused to its maximum.
- Rogan, DFW Texas
All I have heard from Brown over the last few weeks is how we need this law to help defeat terrorists and to send a message to them that we mean business. Out and out spin and lies. If this pathetic excuse for prime minister really wanted to do something to help in the fight against terror he would start by getting rid of the human rights act that prevents us from deporting these same terrorists and provides a safe haven for them. This is all about control of the public. You only have to look at how local authorities are using so called anti terror laws to snoop and pry on people breaking laws to realise what will happen when they bring in this law. A giant step nearer to the new world order!
- Duncan Walker, Peckham
Another step towards the Third World. Education restricted, liberty restrained, unelected leader and random violence. All we need is a bit of food scarcity and you could be talking about any one of a dozen African countries.
- Mark, London, UK
£2.7 billion for Crewe by-election, £1.2 billion for 42 days, how much longer can we afford Brown? I suppose he does save money on compensation payments to injured soldiers.
- Dave, London
If Gordon Brown is so adamant that he "must have these measures" then why didn't he simply go to his bosses at Federal Europe HQ in Brussels and ask them to implement a European Directive on this matter?
After all, if there was any question of the measures "breaching either Convention or Human Rights" then the European Court of Human Rights is right there to be consulted with!
- Fraser, Telford Park
Louie from London's comments are so absurd they are not worthy of comment.
This 42 day law is illegal and with the Lords blocking it (the Parliament Act is irrelevant and cannot apply because there is no settled will of the Commons and the vote was swung on bribes). Furthermore its legality under Magna Carter will be challenged in UK courts and its legality under EU law will be challenged in Europe. As a bill it never had a prayer and was always just to bail out this failed unelected useless prime minister.
- Mikko Takala, Drumnadrochit, Scotland
So we're effectively being ruled by Ulster at the moment?
- Paul, London
Well there goes yet another Civil Liberty out the door.
Looks like we are simply sleep walking into these Govt policies without any out cry from the population! I can imagine that Gordon is dreaming up even more ways to remove our civil liberties.
- Phil, London
Why is this so bad? In a phrase - function creep.
Much as we were told that the RIPA act would only be used against those terrorist chaps it's now being (ab)used by all and sundry against Dog Walkers, Litterers and school catchment area possible cheats. In short you cannot trust power NOT to be abused.
Coming soon to you - being locked up for 42 days without charge for the heinous crime of say urinating in the street or returning a library book back late.
That's why it's so bad. I accept it's popular with some people but that's because they themselves are wrong. I think it's a sad day for my country. I doubt that it will aid in the WOT either.
Time will now see who is right.
- Ethan, nr Dole Farm, UK
Not only has Gordon made this country a laughing stock around the world (they don't pay our stealth taxes, so they can afford to laugh at us), he has now also obliterated the integrity of parliament. For goodness sakes Gordon, GO, and go now before my country really does disappear down the toilet.
- Peter M, London, UK
Tonight's vote was a cynically engineered ploy to divert attention from all the other inflictions on our populace by Brown.
- Nick, Chatham. England
Now it only remains to be seen how it will inevitably be abused.
- Rogan, DFW Texas
What a desperately dismal sight the Prime Minister presents as he trades off a basic Magna Carta human right with tawdry bribes and ill concealed threats. He knows perfectly well that Opposition MPs would support him if he had a clear case for his proposals. He hasn't and all that is left is behaviour worthy of a banana state. What moral? What compass? What shame.
- James Elliott, Eastbourne UK
For anyone breaking the law, the civil rights bill and human rights bill should be scrapped. These laws should only apply to those law abiding citizens, i.e. the victims.
- Louie, London
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