Russia warns U.S. naval build-up may lead to war and accuses America of shipping arms to Georgia
Last updated at 12:58pm on 28.08.08
- Miliband: 'No question' of war with Russia
- France: EU is considering sanctions against Russia
- Unmanned Georgian spy plane shot down
Tensions between Russia and the West were ratcheted even higher today after Moscow warned that the American naval build-up in the Black Sea could be seen as a 'declaration of war'.
As the fallout over the Kremlin's invasion of Georgia continued, Russian military chiefs warned that they were monitoring closely the appearance of US warships in the region.
Russia's foreign minister also accused Foreign Secretary David Miliband of being 'hypocritical' in his criticism of Moscow, pointing out that Britain had itself rushed to defend the Falklands.
But today Mr Miliband said there was 'no question' of a war with Russia.
The US Coast Guard cutter Dallas at Georgia's Black Sea port of Batumi
Thank you: Captain John Moore of the Dallas is greeted by Georgians as he delivers aid
He also said the situation marked 'a clear end to the relative and growing calm in and around Europe since the collapse of the Soviet Union', telling the BBC that the conflict heralded a new instability.
The rhetoric flew as a South Ossetian interior minister claimed an unmanned Georgian spy plane had been shot down in the territory this morning.
Mikhail Mindzayev said the drone was shot down over South Ossetia today by local forces. He said it had crossed into South Ossetia from the south, meaning it was of Georgian origin.
A Georgian official denied that the country had sent any drone over South Ossetia. Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili says Mindzayev is 'seeing things'.
Hardline: David Miliband has called for a review of relations with Russia
Adding to the tension, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said European Union leaders are considering imposing sanctions against Russia ahead of a summit on Monday to discuss the situation in Georgia.
Russia hit back, saying such talk was the product of a 'sick imagination' and Western confusion.
'Apart from that my friend Kouchner also said that we will soon attack Moldova and Ukraine and the Crimea,' Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said today.
'But that is a sick imagination and probably that applies to sanctions as well,' Lavrov told reporters in the Tajik capital.
'I think it is a demonstration of complete confusion,' he said.
At the same time Russia's fellow members of the G8 group of rich nations - Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States and the UK - issued a statement deploring 'Russia's excessive use of military force'.
Meanwhile, Russian president Dmitri Medvedev threatened to use his country's military machine to respond to the deployment of an American anti-missile defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic.
A senior Russian general, Anatoly Nogovitsyn, criticised the arrival of the US Coastguard cutter Dallas at the Black Sea port of Batumi today, the second of an expected three US ships sent to deliver aid to Georgia.
The Dallas had been due to land in the Georgian port of Poti, where Russian troops are still manning checkpoints. But without explanation it docked 50 miles south in Batumi, a port outside Russian control.
Nato has said it is also undertaking pre-arranged exercises in the Black Sea involving US, German, Spanish and Polish ships.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in his Moscow office today
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev accused the Americans of bringing in weapons for war-torn Georgia under the guise of humanitarian aid - a charge dismissed by the White House as 'ridiculous'.
Mr Miliband, asked whether Nato would go to war against Moscow if it were to attack a neighbouring country or ally again, said: 'We don't want all-out war with Russia ... There's no question of launching an all-out war against Russia.'
With Russian newspapers and TV stations today highlighting maps showing the build-up of Western forces in the region, General Nogovitsyn warned the Nato presence could not be allowed to grow 'indefinitely'.
Dmitry Rogozin, Russia's ambassador to Nato, warned against Western interference in Georgia's breakaway regions, which were recognised as independent by Moscow on Tuesday.
'If Nato takes military actions against Abkhazia and South Ossetia, acting solely in support of Tbilisi, this will mean a declaration of war on Russia,' he said.
Accusation: Russian president Dmitry Medvedev claims the US ship was bringing in arms for Georgia
Prime minister Vladimir Putin reasserted his own influence as he met president Medvedev.
Mr Putin's spokesman said: 'Certainly some measures of precaution are being taken. It's not a common practice to deliver humanitarian aid using battleships.'
Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov last night lashed out against Britain and Nato following Mr Miliband's heavy criticism of Russia's conflict with Georgia.
'The moralising that we hear from our Western colleagues is not based on facts,' Mr Lavrov said.
'It's strange that our actions to defend our citizens right on our borders should be criticised by Britain, considering its actions in the Falkland Islands, which are the other side of the world.'
In one small gesture of co-operation, Russian forces turned over 12 Georgian soldiers on the border of Abkhazia.
Georgia's former president Eduard Shevardnadze - who was also foreign minister in the former Soviet Union - said Russia would live to regret its recognition of rebel regions and called for a boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics in the Russian city of Sochi.
As the drama unfolded, the Foreign Secretary urged the West to make Russia pay for its decision to use military force to carve up the fledgling democracy on its doorstep.
Mr Miliband accused the Russians of encouraging the 'festering divisions' of the Cold War after they used military might to impose their authority in the Caucasus region.
His provocative intervention came in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, which diplomats fear could be the next target.
On a day of rising tensions yesterday:
• Ukraine threatened to increase the rent it charges the Russian fleet for the use of its Black Sea port;
• France predicted that Ukraine and Moldova could be the next Russian targets;
• Mikhail Gorbachev compared the showdown to the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, when the world teetered on the brink of nuclear war.
Mr Miliband told the Ukrainians: 'We need to support your rights, and raise the costs to Russia of disregarding its responsibilities.'
The Foreign Secretary flew to Kiev to stage a show of support for the Ukraine, which like Georgia has a pro-Western president with ambitions of joining both Nato and the European Union, a move away from Moscow's sphere of influence which has angered the Kremlin.
Ukraine also has a large Russian-speaking population, but is much bigger than Georgia.
Two children play in Tskhinvali, capital of Georgia's breakaway province of South Ossetia yesterday
Mr Miliband said: 'Russia is more isolated, less trusted and less respected than two weeks ago. It has made military gains in the short term.
'But over time it will feel the economic and political losses.
'If she truly wants respect and influence, and the benefits which flow from it, then Russia needs to change course.'
He said Russia was breaking the terms of a ceasefire and suggested Moscow could be made to pay a heavy economic price for its actions.
Mr Miliband accused Mr Medvedev of trying to 'redraw the map' of the Caucasus through his unilateral recognition of the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and said he had a 'big responsibility not to start' a new Cold War.
The response of the EU and Nato to such 'aggression' should be one of 'hard-headed engagement' in reviewing relations with Russia.
'That means bolstering our allies, rebalancing the energy relationship with Russia, defending the rules of international institutions, and renewing efforts to tackle "unresolved conflicts",' he said.
And Mr Gorbachev urged political leaders in the Kremlin and the West to act now to stop matters running out of control.
'The time is ripe to stop scaring each other and to do something constructive,' he said.
'It is a vital need to warn of the disastrous effects any impulsive, ill-considered step may trigger.'
Earlier, Ukraine said it wanted to discuss charging Russia more for the lease of a Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol in the Crimea.
Russia has said any renegotiation would break a 1997 agreement between the two countries, under which it leases the base for £50million a year until 2017.
Gordon Brown will attend an unprecedented meeting of leaders of the EU's 27 member states on Monday to discuss their response to Russia's actions.
Reader views (23)
I feel very safe with David Miliband at the helm.
- Phil Jones, London UK
Bob: I think it's you that needs to get his facts straight...US interference is neither wanted nor needed in the region...as always, it's just making the situation worse (see also Nicaragua, Vietnam, Iraq).
Incidentally, why do you think Turkey is a US interest? It's an independent democratic country, and I'm sure most patriotic Turks would be insulted by the suggestion that it's a "US interest". The same goes for Ukraine (it may interest you to know that a significant proportion of Ukrainians oppose closer ties with the US). I appreciate you're a long way away from all this, but still...
- Mark, London
Imagine that a frontier county in Mexico has become settled mostly by USAns and some years ago voted to become independent of Mexico. Mexico launches a night-time attack against civilians in the provincial capital--there being no military targets there--and kills hundreds of people, vowing to never let the province get its way. In addition, Mexican peace-keepers who have been serving with US peace-keepers since the vote turn on their colleagues and shoot them. What would the US do? You know perfectly well. Would the UK back up its buddy? Damn right. It would shed no crocodile tears as it is doing for the US puppet in Georgia. Imagine further that Mexico has been setting up military bases and partnerships in the Caribbean states and Canada, in an obvious move to encircle the US militarily. What happens? After a shock-and-awe attack, US troops would be eating enchiladas in Mexico City, and Milliband would be offering to join a coalition of the willing—for a piece of PEMEX.
- Latam, Washington DC
Where is the statement deploring USA's excessive use of military force in Iraq . . . and many other countries?
Hypocrites!
Thank God for Russia!
- Canadian, Toronto Canada
Bob of Ohio you are so right. Americans are fed garbage for news and we are watching and we know the truth.
- Marge, satsuma fl
Why can't George Bush and the rest of his gang of thugs just go out quietly? Why in the world to they have to continue trying to start another crazy military action abroad? This country scares me.
- Sher, USA California
As stupid and reckless as shaakasvilli is, he would never do what he did to S Ossetia if he didn't have a strong backer, which is undoubtedly the US.
Look at the situation the US was faced with right before Georgia's attack on S. Ossetia:
Poland was becoming less receptive to the US missile defense shield and key NATO members rejected Georgia's and Ukraine's bid for membership. Both of these setbacks were not good for the imperial interests of the US. So they cooked up this provocation to draw Russia in and then launch an all-out anti-Russia propaganda blitz. This had the desired effect of scaring everyone around and then Poland immediately agreed to the missile plan and now Germany and other western european countries are ready and eager to admit Ukraine and Georgia into NATO.
Just another example of the deranged mentality which governs US foreign policy.
- Paul, Charlotte, US
No one's saying you cant sit at the big table.
We appreciate you keeping the umbrella up. As we're all witnessing a heavy shower.
Some of us are feeling damper than others, I know. Apostle x
- Paul, Bromley
Mr Howard wrote, several years ago, an article entitled " THE FINAL THREATER OF WAR" in which he described exactly what is taking place now.
Check it out.
- Dallas Hanson, USA
BANG!
And we're all gone.
Men, women, and our children.
Stop It Now!
- Martin, Liverpool
It's 1962 all over again, only this time the US leadership is a bunch of foolish warmongering zealots. Kennedy was a smart guy and he was clever enough to prevent a nuclear exchange. With Bush et al running the show, this could be the end of all of us.
- Don, Calistoga CA USA
War between Russia and the "West" or rather the USA is long overdue. It's been bubbling under since the end of WWII. It not happened so far due to the war game scenarios that assured MAD - Mutrulally assured destruction - i.e. we all die and no-one wins. However things have changed and while the Russian military is underfunded and underpaid and their technology very much last century, the USA has been modernising its hardware.
Nearly 70 years ago a short Austrian man marched his troops into Poland and thus began WWII. If a short Russian man does the same I wonder if we would come to their assistance? Or do we just send home all the Polish plumbers?
- Adam, Harrow, UK
All these Western bravados remind me not of 1938 Czechoslovakia. Rather, it's 1914 Europe. They too believed in this all-for-one and one-for-all BS. They thought they're heading to a country picnic with their then friend Serbia, and would be "home by X'mas!". Of course, this time they could "go home" even faster. Mushroom cloud could do wonders.
Just like WW1, Georgian war is not a fight for justice or for civilization, morons!
- Moron Beater, vancouver, bc
The Russians didn't say the magic words: weapons of mass destruction and democracy if so all would have been forgiven.
- Alex Perez, dallas tx
Russia wants war simple as-they have spent billions converting this mountain underground to hold 60,000 people if they get nuked-to start a new world. Frightens me to death.
- Andy, frome
Stuart, The Black Sea is recognized as an International Waterway, several U.S. interests are in the Black Sea, Turkey for one, the Ukraine, Georgia, for 2 and 3. The U.S. has been going into the Black Sea for decades. Russia has been in the Gulf of Mexico, you need to get your facts straight.
- Bob, Cincinnati, Ohio
The problem in Georgia has been caused by the criminal regime in the USA, aided and abetted by the crypto Nazi Labour Party in Britain, who are only too willing to be associated with the Gangsters Bush, Cheney and Rice. The same people who lied about the Iraq war and who are now threatening a new version of the "Guns of August". These are the same criminals who watched the Israeli armed forces pound Lebanon in to the ground only two years ago and did nothing to halt their surrogate ally in its attempted destruction of the Labanese state.
- P O Loingsig, Portsmouth Hampshire.
Miliband yesterday accusing Russia of not following the "New World Order"
Unbelievable!
- Chris, London
It is so pathetic to read this. It is like little boys in the playground with a great more at risk than ever before. Its a shame that nature has not created something natural to get rid of the idiots of this world!
- Stuart, london
Just what are US warships doing in the Black Sea anyway? Would Bush & co be happy if Russian warships were exercising in the Gulf of Mexico?
- John, Bedford
Abkhazia and South Ossetia should never be recognized. The case is totally different from Kosovo. Georgian citizens where expelled from Abkhazia where 80% of population consisted of Georgians. Same happened in South Ossetia. Conflicts should be resolved in civilized way in 21 century. First of all, all refugees should be returned to both regions and then let the population vote whether they want to live with Georgia or not. Moscow is afraid to return refugees, because a simple calculation will show everyone that 80% of Georgian population will vote for united Georgia and live within one country.
World should support Georgia. Russia's aggressive actions and its imperialistic goals will reach Western Europe pretty soon. Russia was begging US and Europe for money in 1991 after the collapse of USSR. But look at it now. Rich with oil and gas now it wants to recreate Soviet Union. Don't you think that Russia will not be satisfied only with Georgia and will expand its influence to dominate the world?
- Tom, Toronto, Canada
Nothing like a bit of war to make everyone forget about the collapsing economy or to make reports stop writing how stupid brown is....now the Olympics are over we must be at war with eurasia again....
- Emmanuel Goldstein, HK
America shipping arms? Never!
- Neil, london uk, Airstrip ONE .
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