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Boris plans to strip young thugs of their Oyster cards
Pippa Crerar, Political Correspondent11 Feb 2008
Teenagers stripped of their Oyster cards for misbehaving on London's buses should be able to win them back by doing community work, says Boris Johnson.
The Tory mayoral candidate pledged to bring in a scheme called "Payback London" which would encourage antisocial young people to view free travel as a privilege.
His plan is one of a series of measures to tackle crime in the capital - which he has pledged will be his number one priority should he win the mayoral election - to be unveiled later this week.
Mr Johnson told the BBC's Sunday AM programme: "We should take Oyster cards from the tiny minority that are abusing the privilege. If people knew they would systematically be deprived of it they would be much less willing to intimidate other passengers.
"If they want that privilege back - it has been given to 18-year-olds and under at the expense of lots of other people travelling on buses - then they should earn it back.
"They would have to do some kind of community service or voluntary service from graffiti removal, painting a community centre, whatever it happens to be. I think it would be a good way of connecting people with the privilege they're getting and making them value it."
Mr Johnson also pledged to introduce free travel for wounded troops in the capital.
He has called for more uniformed Police Community Support Officers and a trial of live CCTV on the buses to tackle anti-social young people.
However, a spokesman for Ken Livingstone's campaign said: "This shows how ill-informed Boris Johnson is - free travel cards are already confiscated for anti-social behaviour on buses.
"Anyone cautioned by the police or convicted of a criminal offence loses their card permanently, which is a very effective deterrent, whereas Boris Johnson's proposal would lessen this punishment."
Reader views (10)
Unfortunately this is just another example of how we as a society are demonising and treating our youth as feral. Children are our gift and if we continue to make life in England so difficult and unwelcoming for them then we will continue to see a disillusioned society whilst offering our children a dwindling number of role models every day.
Wake up. The problem is not children. The problem is adults. If we give our children love, attention, security and boundaries then they will treat us and society with respect. If we continue as we are to do the opposite as Boris is here then they wont. The issue is ours and we need to take responsibility. Stop perpetuating the myth that it is our children out of control. It is adults who have failed to give solid foundations.
The nanny state has gone nuts when we think public transport plays a role on parenting our kids. Boris this is tantamount to bullying where young children as young as 10 or 12 are being treated as third class citizens as criminals just a step a way from borstal but with no judge or jury. Spend some time working with kids. They are great. They just need some attention. You Boris you need to remember what it was like to be one and stop creating rules that just make it harder to ensure our children will ever form into adults. I invite you to spend a day coaching with us with kids in Tottenham. You really have lost the plot
Daniel Mintz
Chair- The Trax - Off Road Cycling Club for Lordship Rec, Tottenham. North London
- Daniel, London, 13/02/2010 19:07
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I agree with Boris, it seems as though many adults shy away from the fact, there are THOUSANDS of teenagers. Not all of them are 'anti social' and terrorise society. Only a tiny minority do. It is funny how, many people make comments like Emanuella. Are you really that impressionable? The media feed you stories about the 'horrible' youth. And you run with it, these so called 'yobs' are the future doctors and lawyers. The people looking after you.
I don't understand why you would choose to make life harder for others, because you don't want to pay your taxes. That's all it boils down to. If you don't want to pay taxes, you don't have to, it's your choice. I'm sure you know what will happen if you don't. And when you hit rock bottom, you will be looking for help from the system you despised.
Let me break it down for you, and others, In a school there are about 1000 students, about 75% will take public transport to school. Of those 750 students, are all of them mugging and attacking fellow passengers? No a miniscule minority are.
What you need to do is think about the future. How are you going to tackle anti social behaviour on public transport? Remember you're a person, given the gift of free will. So you make up for own views, which is called your opinion you are allowed to have it , but please don't be so impressionable.
From a 16 year old, student from London.
Please don't patronise me.
- Justin, London, 03/05/2008 02:09
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Basic problem is that drivers don't ask teenagers to show their passes. This has been going on for years, with the result that it allows others to get away without paying, and for teenagers who have had their Oyster card confiscated to still travel for free.
I understand that there are new rules coming into force soon, and that teenagers will be expected to show their travel cards! But if the drivers still refuse to ask to see these cards, or are too intimidated to do so, then these new rules are pointless.
- Mm, Hackney, 12/02/2008 11:03
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And how much will it cost to provide and police this community work?
- Billy Blighty, Sydney Australia, 12/02/2008 04:46
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These cards shouldn't have been given out in the first place, what are these people learning from it, what's wrong with paying 40p, most of us did in those days.
its a mistake that these cards where given out in the first place ,what is the adult of tomorrow learning from this nothing .these people will not learn to be responsible for them self,what wrong with the 40p they used to pay atleased the driver got some sort of control over these lowelives,people are getting stabd here and there crime is increasing you know why because our youth have free travel most of theme skip school you know why free travel,they can go any where they want because its for free,then you have the new half rate for people who are on the dull, who is paying for this people its honest hard working people like us who are nearly sharing half of our wages on tax so that these people get the best of life, why would they work, every day they come up with different ideees to pull the wholle country in a mess yess its a big mess and where is it all leading to
- Emanuella, London, 11/02/2008 22:32
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No Ken
Everyone does not know cards are withdrawn-talk about hopping on the back foot. Withdraw the card and fine the parents too.
- Anna Moreno, luxembourg, 11/02/2008 16:55
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Well, it's a start.
- R M, London, U K, 11/02/2008 16:44
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Would never work - they will hide behind the barmy Human Rights Act somehow.
- Charlie, London, 11/02/2008 16:19
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They have the power to confiscate the card, but we have received memo's and instructions NOT to take the card away!
- Dene Wood, Grays, Essex,, 11/02/2008 15:16
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Well that's plain daft. By having an Oyster card in the first place it can be proven that they used a certain bus or tube at a time when an offence was committed (original intention of oyster cards, not save anyone money). Look -the biggest deterrent is uniformed force, Police with dogs are very quick to solve problems on public transport.
- Pat, The Hague , Netherlands, 11/02/2008 15:14
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