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m son had a similar incident on a bus,what im writing about is still ongoing,he was with his disabled uncle at the time this happened,they had topped up their oyster cards first before boarding the bus,(bendy type)when they touched in with their oyster cards the reader didnt beep,and a female passenger told them it wasnt working,so because the bus had started moving by this point my son thought it best to get his uncle seated first then try another machine,the bus was very overcrowded and before my son reached the next reader the bus stopped and the inspectors got on and thought he was tring to outsmart them by touching in,they didnt want to hear his explanation or his uncles,they even showed proof they had money on their cards,his uncle then offered to pay both fines,and because my son had shouted at the inspector he would only take the uncles payment,and not my sons offer of payment,when we phoned up to complain the person was so rude and unhelpful and hung up on us twice,it dragged on and on and has left my son with hundereds of pounds in debt,he had left college and started to get benefits and money was being deducted to pay off the fine,but it stopped being deducted for some reason,and today he had a letter hand delivered by the bailiffs,tfl have made so much revenue from this procedure and answer to no one,

- liz, london, 31/03/2011 01:29
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What a horrible lot of people you lot are with your right-wing puritanical views. Take a look at the kind of society you want to live in, and rather than focussing on your anti-freeloading feelings, be tolerant and a little more understanding, whether this was a mistake or not. Someday, maybe someone will come to you and give YOU a criminal record for copying an MP3, or because someone has stolen your identity and commited a crime, or because you protest against a Heathrow runway.

- Who Cares, london, 28/09/2009 15:44
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With this offence on her record the American government will regard her as ineligible to visit the USA and any application for a visa will be refused. So if Ashley was thinking about a holiday in Florida that will have to be forgotten for the next 5 years.

- Bethany Griffiths, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Such events show why we desperately need more people in authority who have a simple sense of fairness. We are increasingly at the mercy of soulless, heartless and, too often, faceless autocrats who care not a jot for the individuals whose lives they invariably damage.

On the subject of a fairer society at least, Boris Johnson makes this one of his significant objectives. Let us hope he can spread the sentiment into some of the lairs where the denizens who control our lives weave their spells and sharpen their claws.

- Alan Wenman, Ruislip, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Well, there you go. TFL London Transport manned by slimey little 'Jobsworths' in the same vian as the 'Blakey' Character of 'On the Buses'. Yes there is a major problem with fare dodgers. But this beggars belief. The little Pea-brained numpty who took the decision to take this all the way to Court ought to be investigated themselves, then sacked!

- B Clark, Chelmsford Essex, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The public should not tolerate government by cattle-prod, which is what the epidemic proliferation of strict-liability offences and on the spot fines amounts to. If the inspectors and the magistrates have no discretion, the politicians must be held accountable for this socially divisive policy.

- Blackstone Coke, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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I think she is what is known as a 'chancer'.

Rule no.1:
Plead innocence and blame someone else (when you get caught)

no sympathy...

- Simon Bucknell, Enfield, 28/09/2009 14:44
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the Evening Standard has been claiming for months that fare dodging was rife on these buses. Now you complain when inspectors act. You can't have it both ways.

- Dorothy, London, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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So what! Life aint fair.

- Frederick, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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In Vancouver they know what to do with such a criminal: they taser them immediately, no questions asked. It sounds unbelievable, but do the research on-line, it's really true: you don't have a fare, you are arrested, if you protest in any way shape or form, you get tasered and down you go.

- Gary Jenkins, Montreal, Canada, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The same thing very nearly happened to me - I have never been so angry as the day I received a court summons for a 90p fine that was 7 months old, and that I had chased and chased about and no one would give me any information on. I went straight to a lawyer who got the case quashed and we appealed for TFL to pay the costs, which was granted. Well done TFL me major stress but you waisted months of my time, court time, and your own time, and ended up paying about £500 for the privilege.

- Sarah, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Experience or was there some other prejudice?

- Simon - Bucharest, bucharest - Romania, 28/09/2009 14:44
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But she did indeed not pay for her fare, if I were to walk out of a shop without paying for goods then I would expect to be prosecuted for shoplifting even if I had simply "forgotten to pay".

- Fay Revader, Wimbledon, 28/09/2009 14:44
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This is ridiculous. I appreciate that they have to be strict, but why not make an example of someone more deserving of the spotlight?

- Nicola Miller, Ealing, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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A very similar thing happened to me a couple of years ago on the 25 bus. It was particularly annoying because the inspector clearly ignored other people (dressed in more causal clothes) and instead picked on me in a suit. In this case I am sure Ashley was picked on as she was a girl, and therefore the cowardly inspectors were not afraid of repercussions.

Apparently the policy of TfL is to prosecute on bendy busses as the onus is more on the passenger to pay their fare. By this logic, Ashley is a worse criminal than someone who jumps a barrier at a tube station!

In my case, I was studying for a professional qualification, and getting a criminal record would have severely jeopardised this. I took advice from a lawyer friend and offered £100 as an out of court settlement, which was accepted. TfL rely on the courts to take these prosecutions seriously and as such have to accept reasonable out of court offers.

I realise this news is too late for Ashley, but hopefully others can avoid criminal records (and some costs) by knowing this.

- Joseph Q, Scarborough, 28/09/2009 14:44
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She was exceedingly unlucky to find an inspector on a bus in that part of London. I routinely travel on 38 and other routes in the area, and particularly at night rarely 1 in 10 passengers bother to use a card or pass. The drivers never dare make any comment even if a card indicates empty.

- Patrick Griffin, Dalston, 28/09/2009 14:44
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...and yet the other day on a 277 bus at Mile End a driver allowed a dozen youths to get on the back of the bus (the door had been left open as they were changing drivers). He clearly saw them and they spoke to him, saying they were getting off at the next stop - they travelled at least five stops before getting off. There was an inspector/supervisor stood at the kerb who did nothing.
Basically we need conductors and a simple standard enforced system on the buses- as it is fare dodging and bad behaviour will continue - thanks Ken!

- Mn, Hackney, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Ridiculous...why not just a £20 fine?

- Jason Stone, Stratford, Newham, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Serves her right, why should the "payers" subsidise theses fare dodgers, most night's they catch dozens on my bus route 53/453, and they all bleat out the same excuses.

Fare dodging is theft end of story.

- P I Staker, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Once again, London Underground, show that customers are just a nuisance and have treated this young lady appallingly.

- Simon, Harrow, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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"..boarded a bendy bus without realising her pre-pay card did not have enough money on it for the fare."

Yeah right.

- Frank, Home Counties, England., 28/09/2009 14:44
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This is a fine example of where too much power has been handed to those who have little or no training, inspectors can be sometimes jaded and bias and as well have no clue of the consequences to the Tax payer in the end. I am sure that there will be more and more of these sorts of examples as time goes forward - Especially now since the traffic wardens have the power to land anyone in court for civil infractions without any hard evidence? I truly hope Boris can make a change for us Londoners!

- Phil Stoffels, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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A similar thing nearly happened to me when for some reason the inspector's equipment did not read that I had actually touched my card in. It is ridiculous. Poor woman. Rather than forking out for swathes of inspectors to patrol bendies why don't they bring back proper buses with conductors and scrap the stupid 'free ride guv' bendy ones?

- Tammo, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The moment I read this my mind started to paraphrase the Gendarmes Duet:-

"We're LT guardians bold yet wary, and of ourselves we'll take good care,
To risk our precious lives we're chary, when danger looms, we're never there
But when we meet a helpless woman, or little boys that do no harm
*
We run them in
We run them in
We run them in
We run them in well show them we're the BOLD GUARDIANS
* (repeat)

If gentlemen will make a riot, and punch each other's heads at night,
We're quite disposed to keep it quiet, we can't invade their Human Rights,
But when it comes to something trivial, we swell our chest and show our might,
*
We run 'em in
We run 'em in
We run 'em in and show 'em we're the BOLD GUARDIANS
* (repeat)

- Marie Pestano, Worcester Park, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Yet another example of the madness and anti-London activities of Ken's bully boys who run TfL. Mind you the police and magistrates who pursued this action should also hang their heads in shame. I hope Ashley sues the bendy-bus off the lot of them.

- Cuthbert Dibble-Grubb, Trumpton, 28/09/2009 14:44
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If we the people have the courage, we should invoke Magna Carter and absolutely refuse point blank to cooperate with this evil system. The law belongs to US, not to them. Peaceful non-cooperation with these nasty officious thugs is the only solution, or we shall all be criminalised.

- Neil, london uk, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Joseph Q is right. They always ignore young fellas who look like they might put up a bit of an argument.

- Bob, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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As an adult, she is responsible for ensuring she has a valid ticket or pass for her entire journey. She is entirely responsible for making sure she has enough money on her Oystercard before travelling - period!

You cannot board a plane without a passport can you? Likewise, you cannot board a bendy without sufficient funds to travel. The bus is full of signage clearly stating this. There are no excuses. It's as simple as that.

- Anon, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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This is ridiculous. Just how much public money has been spent on prosecuting and criminalising this poor girl?

A £20 fine surely would have been sufficient!

- Liz, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Too true she should get a criminal record. Buses and trains are not free and neither should fare payers have to subsidise non-payers. If you don't have 90p - tough, leg it.

- Paul, london, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Thank heavens I don't live in Canada! What a disproportionate and vicious response. I prefer a justice system with a more intelligent approach. This is a hard-working student who is at present getting herself properly educated so that she can contribute to society. She behaved properly and reasonably when she discovered her error. I think it is wrong, therefore, that the system has chosen to treat her with unusual severity in a way that will stigmatise her as a law-breaker in future. Any civilised society values fairness. This is unfair.

- Susan, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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London is truly amazing. The police can shoot innocent men dead in the streets and face no repercussions but you get a criminal record for not realising your electronic bus pass was 90p short. Police state here we come.

- Mikko Takala, Drumnadrochit, Scotland, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Jobsworth on the rampage again. Pity the Court did not believe the girl who presumably had no criminal record. If the driver had defended her to his Inspector, surely the Inspector suggested and accused the driver of lying.

- Hugh Morgan-Jones, Manchester U.K., 28/09/2009 14:44
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She dodged the fare and got caught. So what! Zero tolerance means exactly that, and London will not be as safe as New York until it is applied everywhere.

- Jim, People's Republic of Islington, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Where are all of these inspectors on bendy buses. TFL lose millions a year due to very few people using their oyster cards to sign in whenever they board a bus. This infuriates me when I have never dared to follow suit.
How can they tell if you have logged in or not. Heavy fines should be set for anyone who tries to defraud TFL, or stop making it easy to defraud by withdrawing such easy access in bendy buses.

- Lisa, Shepherds Bush, west london, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The obvious solution is to add a card reader at each bus stop allowing people to check the balance of their card before boarding the bus. Unless, of course, the whole point of the system is to trap people into breaking the law, extract money from them, and ruin their future by giving them a criminal record. In which case, job well done.

TfL are quoted as saying "in most cases those caught without a valid ticket were issued with a £20 penalty fare and not prosecuted". What exactly is TfL's criteria for deciding who gets a £20 fine and who gets a criminal record? And does race plays a part in that statistic...

- Ali Musa, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The pathetic inspectors should be fined for wasting tax-payers money. Why could she not pay £20 fine? We really want to know. Frighteningly, I think it demonstrates how easy it is for an ordinary person to end up in court or worse. It is such as shame because in my view serious criminals, rapists and paedophiles should be shot or (heavens forbid we cause an outcry) killed by lethal injection. However, unnecessary injustices like this, prove that the system is woefully inadequate and would not therefore work. I hope the inspectors receive their due karma.

- Sonia, Wimbledon UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Did the jobsworths ask her to pay the fare with cash? (OK a bit higher, but coins are still legal tender on the buses). That might have saved clogging up the court.

Transport for London are a self-serving bureaucracy at the higher level and I hope that Boris will have a good sort-out after he becomes Mayor.

- Brian, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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This is so unjust and unfair one might think it is a case of racial discrimination. Another good reason to get rid of the big boss of TfL, Mr. Livingstone this May.

- George, London, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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It's a joke. If these inspectors would care to stand near to the Victoria Line exit at Victoria they could catch thousands of fare dodgers every day, either travelling on kids tickets or no ticket at all. As it is the staff just stand back and let them get away with it.

- Paul, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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It's simple - vote Boris. No more bendy buses.
I'm sorry for Ms. Williams - she is paying for the thousands of fare dodgers who use the bendy buses every day.
Sometimes, on boarding the bus, I am the only person to place my card on the reader.

- Sally R., London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Absolutely typical of the "speed camera" attitude to all forms of justice encouraged by this Government. Presumably the Magistrates also had no discretion?

Reminds me of being charged a penalty fare on the Thameslink route, where after a change in franchise and unpublicised rule changes, my £4,000 season ticket was no longer valid for off-peak travel beyond its specified destination. A few months earlier when I had paid for an extension for the same journey, the ticket inspector told me to get a refund!

In giving me the penalty fare, the ticket inspector took great pride in telling me they'd taken people to Court for less.

I hate fare evasion, but the authorities tunnel into their moral high ground when they treat their customers like this.

Anyone for a return of conductors on the son-of-routemaster?

- Anon, London, UK, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Why do people doubt how easy it is with an Oyster card to lose track of what the balance remaining is? It is unfair to impose a draconian penalty system on the public when the new technology is not easy for a non-digital mind to keep track of.

- Blackstone Coke, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Absolutely disgusting, the jobsworth inspectors should be fired for this.

- Teddy, Islington, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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In light of the fact that one pays a £3 returnable deposit to get an Oyster card, or a £5 non-refundable admin fee for a student oyster card, I think the system should allow a little bit of credit, perhaps to to value of one bus fare. That would be fare .

- Anon, Wimbledon, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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The rules are very simple - pay for your ticket or face a fine and possible criminal record if you don't.
I have never boarded a bus or train without paying - and I am sick to death of those who do.
Our society has become so arrogant that the criminal is once again treated as a victim.
She should accept her punishment and then make sure that she pays for her travel in the future.

- Jim, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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Quite right too!
Why should the rest of us, as conscientious citizens, subsidise the inept, poor and lazy.

- Tangomike, Kensington, London, 28/09/2009 14:44
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