Vaccine for swine flu may be unsafe warns WHO
Mark Prigg, Science and Technology Correspondent27.07.09
Plans to fast-track the swine flu vaccine in Britain came under fire from World Health Organisation chiefs today.
The Department of Health plans to make the vaccine available at least two months earlier than in America.
More than 132million doses have been ordered with the first batch due to arrive next month.
However, Dr Keiji Fukuda, the WHO's flu chief, today warned about the potential dangers of the untested vaccine: "There are certain areas where you simply do not try to make any economies. One of the things which cannot be compromised is the safety of vaccines."
The European Medicines Agency, the drug regulatory body for the EU, is accelerating the approval process for the vaccine, allowing firms to bypass large-scale human trials and instead test a vaccine based on bird flu.
Countries including Britain, Greece, France and Sweden plan to start using it as soon as it is cleared.
The Department of Health said it was "extremely irresponsible" to suggest Britain would use an unsafe vaccine. A spokesman said: "Over 40,000 doses of the vaccine which the swine flu vaccines are based on have been given without any safety concerns."
The plan comes amid growing public concern over the outbreak.
A cruise ship packed with 160 British tourists and hit by swine flu was briefly "impounded" by Italian authorities.The Ruby Princess, carrying 3,393 passengers and 1,196 crew, docked in Venice and was surrounded by coastguards yesterday. After a medical examination passengers, except seven confirmed cases of H1N1, were allowed off the boat.
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EVERYONE in the world has the right to say "NO". Its your health and your choice and no one can take that away from you. There will always be pros and cons and blame and hysteria for this type of situation but at the end of the day surely the only one responsible for your health is YOU! What about the people that refuse life saving medications/blood transfusions due to their religions/beliefs? They are not forced into having it done but left to die if they so wish. The government etc can advise us on what THEY think is right but they cannot force our hand.
- Nicola Jayne, north somerset
We need s serious campian, public is too naive on this. The human body is an amazing machine. Don,t let them brian wash you.
Lets just say no the more the better for all. Unity is needed if not you will be forced to take it, you could lose your jobs.
- Mani, Yorkshire Leeds
so what if the vaccines made mandatory i still wont take it. im not alone many of thousands of people wont. what they going to do put everyone in jail? fine everyone, impossible. hey its a joke swine flu treat it as such.
- Mark, leeds uk
I'm a diabetic pregnant woman with a 9 month old baby and an asthmatic husband. I also have a healthy 5 year old. This means we all are recommended to have the vaccine as I fall under 2 high risk groups, my husband another and my children live with us putting them in the firing line too.
I am terrified that they are wanting to make this vaccine mandatory. I severely dislike the idea of having a brand new, half tested vaccine put into my blood stream but even more-so the blood stream of my unborn baby. My husband doesn't want the vaccine either due to the lack of testing actually carried out on this vaccine and there is no way we are making our children have it if we won't.
Our biggest worries are that our freedom to choose will be snatched away from us and that there will be long-term effects that cannot have been tested for simply due to the newness of the virus and vaccine.
- Becci, Washington, Tyne and Wear, England
I am so extremely worried for our son who is 12. Just getting a common cold and cough can have him in hospital for days with asthma. We just dont know what to do for the best, and I am making myself very ill now. My husband and I dont care what it may or may not do to us if we catch it, but our son is beyond precious to us and we dont want to make a mistake that we may have to live with for the rest of our lives. Either way, could someone who really knows their stuff about all this please help us ??? There would be no second chances for our angel !!!
kindest regards to all
mel x
- Mel Wilde, colchester UK
Anyone who puts thierselves in for this vaccine is nuts.
Youve only got to google uk nurses refuse vaccination for swine flu or doctors refuse and even the makers of the vaccination will refuse the swine flu vaccination.
If our Government expects us to take that deadly EU666 THEY MUST THINK WERE OFF WITH THE FAIRIES.
Im so glad there will be a LONDON PROTEST ON OCTOBER 3RD OCT 09 12 Noon - Houses of Parliament.
People before you decide go on youtube and put h5n1 EU666 In the search and watch video you will be shocked.
Another great website is Jane Bergermiesters http://www.theflucase.com WHERE YOU CAN SEE NEWS REPORTS ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE A FEW ON THERE TODAY ABOUT UK MANDATORY POLICE DRIVEN VACCINATIONS
Gordon Brown will deffinately be voted off and David Cameron will be in his place if he goes through with this.
- Sg, UK
Agree with Lindy Lou = make all government ministers get vaccinated first!!
- H, Wales UK
I. THINK US ENGLISH SHOULD LOOK AFTER THE GOVERMENT FIRST .THEY HAVE HELPED THROUGH EVERY STEP IN LIFE SO I SUGGEST WE SHOULD START A PETITION IN LOOKING AFTER THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR BELOVED GOVERMENT AND MPS AND MINISTERS .SUGGESTING THEY HAVE THE FIRST ROUND OF THE TESTED SWINE FLU VACCINE..WHAT YOU RECKON
- Lindy Lou, UK
The FACTS are that areas of the world during the 1918 Flu Pandemic who did NOT vaccinate (such as Greece) had far SMALLER deaths from Flu than those who were. The FACT is that the Yellow Fever vaccine in the USA contained deadly toxins, hidden from view for almost 45 years. The FACT is that vaccinations do NOT prevent illness and do NOT cure any illness. The FACT is that the contents of the Swine Flu vaccine are TOXIC. The fact is there are court cases worldwide to stop this nonsense before it's too late. This vaccine, like all others, is a health risk to mankind. It's the medical profession against the pharmaceutical industry. Plain and simple. Wake Up !
See 'Vaccinations - The Hidden Truth' and countless others on Youtube. Don't sleepwalk in to a tragedy.
- Robert, London
I just remember during the Gerald Ford administration they were doing he same thing with the Swine Flu. More people died or go incapacitated by the vaccine than by the flu itself. People like Joseph Heller and actor Andy Griffith were both affected badly by it and Epstein Bar. They still haven't taken mercury out of it.
- Ziggy, Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
More people die of normal flu than "swine flu"
I'm a 19 year old girl, I refused to take the HPV after researching it.
Some of the people that I know that took it are still having some side effects, I feel fine and this was almost a year ago.
As much as the media blows this virus out of proportion, Its nowhere near as bad as they say.
Not even 0.5% of people that get it actually die.
Yet the side effects of the vaccine will certainly outweigh the flu itself.
If anything I personally belive that the flu vaccines actually lower our immunity, cotton wooling us to fight off a certain strain. But if the strain we were injected against mutates we will get much worse as the injection will not be sufficient to alleviate the risk of getting the illness in the first place.
Our immune systems are strong, with the right vitamins and diet we can fight any cold.
Why inject us with harsh chemicals that will damage our brains and productivity?
- Jane, Essex, England
To everyone,google this ,
Vaccination Myths And Truths
By Stephen Lendman
and
Dangers In The Shots - Components
Of H1N1 Vaccines
They are considered a biodefense agents.
By Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri
- Charles, montreal,canada
@ Dave, London
"I vote we test it on all our current MPs,if it is harmfull at least it will not do the country any harm."
Hear! Hear!!
On a serious note, I think the diabolical contents of this so-called vaccine is evidenced by the fact that companies manufacturing them are being granted immunity against legal action in ALL respects. This is unprecedented. Now, why would that be? This fact, in my opinion, makes governments across board complicit and liable for deaths that may occur from this mandatory insistence.
But question is; what are government's motives and benefits for daring to pursue this line of executive recklessness? I dare say, that it is only profit and campaign funds that can push politicians to this jagged cliff.
- Egoigwe, Abuja, Nigeria
It's getting ever crazier. The safest thing seems to be to catch that damned flu soon so that there is a chance to escape vaccine-poisoning. What the hell are they doing there? All billionaires and MPs should be given the vaccine shots first, of course all their children and their pregnant wives, publicly, by physicians put under oath that it's the stuff the other people who might want it will also receive.
After all these our overlords are most important for society - are they not? - and should consequently be saved first.
If all these bigshots stay just as irresponsible after the application as they have proven to be concerning the financial markets and become no bit more weird for five years, the idle populace might in its leisure time consider following their example.
- Magnus Göller, Hammelburg, Germany
BE CAREFUL ALL GOOD FOLK
SOMEONE WANTS CONTROL OVER YOU...........
- God Send, Smallville, Illinois
It seems to me, that to comply with this mandatory law, all you need to do is serve a notice on the person administering the drug, informing them that if you should have any ill effect of the vaccine they will personally be responsible and be liable to pay a mandatory fine of £250bn for administering the vaccine to you. Ask them to read a small pamphlet you have prepared to show all of the supporting evidence that this vaccine may be unsafe before signing and I doubt anyone would sign it, therefore, you would still be compliant with the mandatory law, willing to receive it on your conditions (which you are legally allowed to do) putting the onus on the vaccine administrator to guarantee its safety. if everyone did this, they would have to hold the administering staff at gunpoint rather than the person who needs to be vaccinated. The document would also stand up in court. The drug manufacturers have been given legal protection against lawsuits against them as corporations, so sue the person administering it. Once the little people realise that they themselves will be held accountable, lets see how many people actually have the jab.
- Lou, Devon UK
In the U.S., there is indication that refusing the vaccine will result in a 250,000.00 dollar fine and one year in prison. However, WHO (Model Emergency Health Powers Act) mandates the criminalization of anyone (in any of the countries who have signed on to the UN/WHO) refusing a vaccine once a pandemic has been declared. And deadly force may be used against the 'criminal'.
The question remains, why do they wish to make mandatory a vaccine for a flu that has infected and killed many less people than would be the result from a 'regular' flu year?
Could this be part of the continued war by the Elites against the people? After all, these eugenicists have written (in the Club of Rome, the CFR, World Population Conferences, etc., that they want billions fewer people on the planet. Will you be one of the 'billions'.....?
- Dr. Richard Welser, Morganton, NC
like in 1976 the vaccine will kill more that it protects
and we will be left with a witchhunt on any medics that speak up like the MMR bowel desease scandal
- Mark, london
youmay not have any choice whether to take the vaccine. i hear it will be mandatory.
- Pam, jax usa
ALL Thirmosal hasn't been removed anyway. There are still small traces in the vaccines but they can indiacte they are "Thimesol free" due to the lower amounts.
A seperate subject but Vaccines and other medications also contain preservatives....even the Vitamin K injections contain Benzyl Alcohol which can also cause adverse reactions.
- Michael Bruce, Rapid City, SD
Who here said MMR contained mercury? Mercury would inactivate MMR, which is a live virus vaccine, and has never contained the thimerosal preservative.
I wonder how long people will be fed this nonsense.
- Ann E Taylor, Birmingham
Colloidal Silver kills any flu, and any other virus. Its safe to use but look it up for yourself and make you own decision. There is certainly no H5N1 in colloidal silver so straight away its a lot more appealing! MMS also kills flu and any other viruses.
- Paul Byrne, Dublin, Ireland
Please watch. This is a repeat of history...DO NOT take this vaccine....
Part 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo
Part 2: www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4c9Is1T3z4
They are all liars.
- Maria, United States - Illinois
The vaccine was fine 2 weeks ago until legal proceedings were started in Austria by Jane Burgermeister against Baxter who deliberately infected 72Kg of H1N1 vaccine with bird flu in Feb. Now after this has been highlighted it 'may be unsafe'. LOL. Only a suicidal idiot would take a vaccine off these people.
- Paul Byrne, Dublin, Ireland
Mary, sorry I have to disagree on that - thiomersal is a Mercury compound which was added to MMR for years and only recently removed after concerns about its links to retarding infant brain development. Google MMR mercury if you want some references, there are a number of reliable sources including the Times and the BBC.
- Jonathan, London, England
I prefer to get the flu, suffer a bit, build an immunity and move on. We have not forgotten what happened when the swine flu hit before and the horrors from that vaccine. All the strange crap that gets put into vaccines, and I am to trust those people and corporations with my health? No.
- Bryce, Vancouver Canada
Why the sudden rush and eagerness to vaccinate the whole population, not just the UK but the world? If you really want to know then google 'Jane Burgermeister' to get the full picture.
- Amanda Blake, Bristol, UK
Jonathon,
The MMR did not contain mercury. The DPT vaccine, however, did. Some flu vaccines still contain it.
- Mary, London, UK
A mate was told by his doctor that the young are most at risk, as a variation of the Swine flu hit the UK in the early 1970s, so older people probably have some form immunity. But NOT youngsters.
- Matt, Telford
What a nation of hypochondriacs we have become.
- Steve, London
The Department of Health said it was "extremely irresponsible" to suggest Britain would use an unsafe vaccine.
Hardly - extremely irresponsible is allowing the use of mercury adjuvants in MMR vaccines for years causing unneccessary brain damage in infants and then trying to cover up the facts while the unused contaminated product continued to be exported to the third world where they're less likely to complain. I'm certainly wondering what little treats Baxter and GSK are adding to this batch of vaccine for us, concerned about reports of H1N1 DNA analysis suggesting the virus is unnatural and was laborotory grown, that Baxter are being prosecuted for a release of 87 kg of Avian flu matter in Austria some years ago and that pharma has negotiated themselves immunity from prosecution if they do manage to kill swathes of the general populace with this vaccine.
Word to the wise - if you're young, fit and healthy take your chances with the bug.
- Jonathan, London, England
I vote we test it on all our current MPs,if it is harmfull at least it will not do the country any harm.
- Dave, london
There's a tricky balancing act here. Swine flu is spreading very fast, doubling almost weekly. There simply isn't the time to test a vaccine for it in the usual measured way. If it carries on spreading at this rate, everyone will have caught it by Xmas.
If I were in one of the at-risk groups and knew that swine flu was a deadly danger to myself, I'd accept the small risk from a fast-tracked vaccine. Likewise if it were a killer epidemic. Since I'm not and it isn't, I'll decline to be vaccinated before the full battery of safety tests are completed, meaning I'll probably catch it instead. The risk to my life from catching swine flu is very small.
There is something very wrong with the state of the nation when the public panics in the face of a not-very-serious epidemic, and the government can't bear to tell people that the best thing for people who aren't at special risk is to go to bed and let nature take its course. Instead it doles out new drugs and rushed vaccines like sweeties, so it can be seen to be doing something. Yet more evidence we need a new government!
- Nigel, London
Anyone with an IQ over 100 is unlikely to be surprised by this statement .....
The trouble is, DoH (well named!) is taking instructions from the muppets at the top, so what do you expect?
- Marianne, SW France/London
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