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FAO MARY IN IRELAND

Dear Mary, cultural diversity is a richness in every country in this global age.Please could you define what the culture is.You can not tell Pakistanis to bring their curry but not their tradition of cloths and weddings, marriages etc.
I have been in Britain for 15 years. my observation is whatever is beneficial for English people there is no negative reactions at all.Why there is a big fuss about the culture of foreigners. This is a racism nothing else Mary.you have got your freedom to choose any nationality. Because when ý was born ý wasnt given a choice to be citizen of my own country. as long as ý am paying tax and ýnsurance ý am entitle to choose any nationality. this is a freedom of every individuals. Do you understand Mary?
I am glad that you have understood.

ilyas Orhanli

ilyas orhanli

- Ilyas Orhanli, Manchester, 04/08/2009 09:22
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Firstly, people should retain their origins. Why would anyone want to become a citizen of another country? Where is one's national pride?
Secondly, the UN should issue a decree, law or whatever it takes to ensure that every country is responsibile for its citizens. Hence a person who commits any crime in another country, be they EU members or not, should be sent back to one's own country. Quite frequently newcomers do not wish to integrate. All foreigners, even within EU member countries, must respect the laws, rules and traditions of the country they live in. A declaration of acceptance should be signed on entry by everybody.
I cannot understand why some foreign nationals insist on having their home rules in a new country when their own country of origin is already racist.
It is time that foreigners who are not happy with what they find in other countries return to their homelands.
Signed
The Anti Whiner

- Mary, Ireland, 04/08/2009 07:38
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FAO Jock, London

Well, I am really telling the truth about immigration in this country and reality of Britain in terms of Integration.Please tell me how much affection there is between Scottish, Welsh and English. The reality of this country is lack of trust and integration.Money is not everything.Of course for overseas citizens money is the only reason staying in this country otherwise They will not stand and put up alot of trouble with English people.You English think that England is in the centre of the world.Let me tell you: Ýf you ask most of American they do not even know where the English island is. That means whoever got the money he/she is the King.
One more thing, as far as understand honesty is the worst thing Britain. How much you are honest and much you are deserved to suffer. this is very comprehensively for everybody. What I am saying is %75 of Legal foreigner who pays tax and insurance and only %25 of them are illegal.Do you really thing %75 them are very comfortable.ý do not think so. Because ýn your eyes of English, every foreigner potentially criminal. first of all, change your mentality then we can make conversation on the basis of mutual respect with TRUE COMMUNICATION. COMMUNICATION IS TWO WAY PROCESS.English people has to learn how to listen as well. They thing they are the main actor of the movie.what about wales, scotland and northern ireland. I WISH YOU GOOD DAYS TOGETHER WITH MORE AFFECTION. AND I WISH TO FOREIGNER MORE PATIENCE. ilyas orhanli

- Ilyas Orhanli, Manchester, 04/08/2009 07:34
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Whatever system we have for dealing with people it must be transparent and fair.
What you mean by fair is of course the issue.
Currently an ex-pat that has paid superannuation all their life for NHS Care until he stops paying because he retires is deprived of direct access to health care. He must pay fifty pounds to see a doctor in the UK unless of course he does an MP 'flip' and declares a UK resident address.
Whatever criteria are devised for immigrants, let us hope that they consider the implications from every but every angle.

- George Richardson, Jomtien, Thailand, 04/08/2009 04:36
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He isn't addressing the main problem which is the two and a half million illegal immigrants currently living in the UK.

By ignoring this he's showing that the government has lost control of who can claim benefits and NHS.

- Richard, London, 03/08/2009 21:35
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Let us hope we start with banning all illegal immigrants, that are found, for good. No second chances.
Then we ban all those with the merest suggestion of a criminal record however small.
That should leave just the few with qualifications who have arrived here through the correct routes. Most will be welcome.

- Michael, Kensington, UK, 03/08/2009 19:34
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As P.Campbell says, except for one thing - the British
Taxpayer was paying the conspirators hard cash while they were highjacking the UK. The Brits voted in Labour
so live with it and move on!

- Val Ruscheniko, Port Elizabeth, South Africa, 03/08/2009 18:52
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Agree whole heartedly with P.Campbell's comment except
for one minor point - the UK paid those people while they were busy taking the country away! Some extra salt
in the UK's racial soup.

- Val Ruscheniko, Port Elizabeth, South Africa, 03/08/2009 18:44
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All talk, again

- Shallotman, Basildon, 03/08/2009 18:11
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Like many other countries, could people wishing to reside here NOT BE ALLOWED in unless they can prove they can support themselves, without employment for a period of say one year to include health insurance and accommodation and maternity anything. I suspect the applications would drop as no freebies straight off.

- Amazonmothe, hasting, 03/08/2009 17:43
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Ilyas - there's an old saying where I come from which is that one man's facts is another man's mince.

The British economy can survive without immigrant labour - incidentally, it's not the legal migrants that are the issue, but the illegal workers who pay nothing to the UK economy in terms of taxes. In any case, I think this planned system will target those who just want to come here with the intention of claiming everything going, by uttering the magic word "asylum".

And with regard to your "world policy" - if you mean the UN rules on asylum and immigration, those rules say that anyone seeking asylum must do so in the first safe country closest to their own. So Afghanis, Iraqis, Pakistanis, etc. should do so well before their lorry arrives at Dover.

One final thing,Ilyas, is your Caps Lock key broken?

- Jock, London, 03/08/2009 17:19
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why would a person want a british passport when no one knows they are here no national health no school and no benifits unless they are legal and working if it was not for generious welfare state no body would come to england

- Betty, london e70ax, 03/08/2009 17:03
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Ah, yet more "tough new rules". ...Well, that's all right then, isn't it?
Our "representatives" at Westminster must REALLY think we're stupid!

- Croyboy, Croydon, 03/08/2009 16:38
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Observer In Life, London said, "Do some of the people on this site actually understand how many of the indegenous people of this country are spongers on the state, who have willfully avoided education, moral ethical practices, and work."

Most people will take the easy path in life if it is offered. That isn't condemnation, just an observation on reality, an objective view on human social nature. But much like muscles have to be stressed to stay strong in physiology to avoid resultant atrophy, so do people's attitudes and ethics - and no, I'm not talking absolutes here, but simply the inclination to participate; to do what is needed for family and community. The current government specifically, and socialism generally - and for that matter ANY government trying to woo voters, removes or at least lessens the need for decision and effort, so those 'muscles' naturally weaken and whither.

They cannot undergo remedial 'therapy' if there is a steady flow of newcomers coming in to do what they are disinclined or effectively discouraged to do by the system. Saying the influx is a remedy is turning the problem on its head. That influx is not only sustaining the problem of benefit serfs whose lives revolve around the handouts from their political masters, it is accelerating it.

Note - I haven't included the opportunist spongers disguised as willing immigrant workers in the above.

- Rogan, Irving, 03/08/2009 16:29
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ABout 20 years too late. Welcome to ghetto UK

- Ge, Kernow, 03/08/2009 16:06
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Enough is enough. Close the borders, stop all these leechers from other countries, taking advantage of the UK system, and basically p*ssing all our tax money up the wall. We need to make do with home grown UK talent. This country is far too overcrowded as it is. Why let in more?

- Alan, LONDON, 03/08/2009 15:56
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''The United Kingdom has long had a history of racism, from mediæval times, through years of the slave trade to the modern day. However as one of Europe's most multi-cultural nations, racism is less of an issue today, and any reports of racial abuse and/or discrimination are dealt with more seriously by British authorities and race riots are uncommon. For many decades now the British Government has long advocated for racial equality in all areas of UK society and abroad. However with higher unemployment rates among ethnic minorities and a widening wealth gap between rich and poor, this is increasingly becoming more of a problem'', ''Political correctness has hit Scotland'' ., ''these brits have really gone too far with their ***** political correctness'' What I am saying is you british are very hostile to each other let alone overseas citizens.
In my opinion, Britain has to change policy towards people who are not English. ENGLAND -SCOTLAND-WALES-NORTHERN IRELAND boundaries have to re-establish and leave the English alone IN THIS SMALL ISLAND.!!!
THEN LOOK THE CHAOS OVER THE BRITISH EMPIRE!!
ilyas orhanli
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- Ilyas Orhanli, Manchester, 03/08/2009 15:48
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the only nation i know of who have given their country away.

- P Campbell, Port Elizabeth South Africa, 03/08/2009 15:39
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Another quarter baked idea for the Ministery of Blunder. This government has so excelled themselves in destroying Britain that I'm sure they could get into the Guiness Book of Records.

We have Migrants and Immigrants, most of whom are Mirgants. The Migrants are the product of New Labour "Let's bust our own frontiers and let the EU walk over us." And how they walk right over us. The Immigrants are but a trickle compared to the EU Tsunami.

Mr Johnson, you'r laughing!

- Maria, London, 03/08/2009 15:24
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"but bad behaviour will cost them points". If any immigrant has been arrested for anything other than petty crimes; they should be banned and deported, full stop. This point system is too little too late as it was this Labour government that flooded our nation with third world migrants that drain our nations welfare and add to the spirraling crime.

- Dirk Diggler, Soho, London, 03/08/2009 15:05
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Do some of the people on this site actually understand how many of the indegenous people of this country are spongers on the state, who have willfully avoided education, moral ethical practices, and work. And, they have been at it for generations! Please let us not make all foreigners in this country guilty purely by being here. In my view, many speak the language better than our own kids, and as for grammar, and punctuation, you would wonder where they learnt to read and write! I am right innit geezer!!!!

- Observer In Life, London, 03/08/2009 14:47
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Time to hag up the FULL sign, we do not want anymore immigrants - EU or otherwise.

- Vince, London, West London, 03/08/2009 14:22
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Typical of an Ultra-Trade Unionist Postman.
Twelve years to finally deliver the obvious!

This is the bloke who, only a fortnight ago, said that he 'didn't loose any sleep over [the] immigration' swamping debacle.
Clear off spineless Johnson.

- Dave, Cumbria, 03/08/2009 14:16
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lets set a target of 1000 + removals a week in Hercules Transport planes. All publiscised and froma different RAF airfield each week to avoid do-gooder protests. Send them back with an invoice to their original country for board, lodging and NASS payments made. Fingerprint each and every one as they leave. Stick up huge posters in Calais, Sangatte showing them being deported to put-off ay new ones! Stop all beneffit payments to criminals, and illegals. Set a maxium time for detention before removal of 5 dyas to stop all the baseless appeals, remove any legal aid provision. This would be start!

- Gary, amersham, 03/08/2009 13:58
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I HAVE TO MENTION AGAIN,IF BRITAIN IS FOLLOWING THE WORLD POLICY,SHE HAS TO OPEN HER ARMS TO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. BRITAIN HAS TO GENUINELY BELIEVE IN FOREIGNERS AND THEIR STRENGHTH. IF YOU TAKE ALL THE FOREIGNERS OUT OF BRITISH ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE. I AM DEFINITELY SURE ABOUT IT. BECAUSE, ALL THE TRESURE OF BRITAIN IS COMING OUT OF THE COUNTRY.IT MEANS BRITAIN WAS/IS EXPLOIDING THE AFRICA AND REST OF THE WORLD. THE REVENUE HAS BEEN ALWAYS COMING OUT OF THE COUNTRY. BRITAIN IS NOTHING WITHOUT THE FOREIGNERS MY DEAR FRIENDS/FOLKS .

ALL THE BRITISH PEOPLE AND POLITICIANS ARE VERY AWARE OF THE SITUATIONS BUT THEY CAN NOT PRONOUNCE IT.SORRY TO EXPRESS IT VERY CRUELLY.BUT IT IS REALLY TRUE.

ilyas orhanli

- Ilyas Orhanli, Manchester, 03/08/2009 13:40
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I'm sure that under this incompetent, goal obsessed Government this will probably only apply to people from developed countries who legitimately want to move here. So we'll have less Aussies, Americans, Canadians etc. and still be swamped by the millions of economic migrants from the 3rd world. The message as usual is if you follow the rules you get the worst deal.

- Mark, London, 03/08/2009 13:27
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Lies, lies, lies. Far to little far to late, and Liebour know it. Big trouble is a coming, if it ain't already there.

- Al, USA, 03/08/2009 13:20
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Just shut the borders, enough is enough.

- Dee Jay, Fleet Hampshire, 03/08/2009 13:20
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It's a numbers question. Forget all the points basing, we need to halt all further immigration, and DEPORT all those at present illegally in the UK. Halt all social benefits and housing, these people are coming here just for what they can take. It will take 100 years for us to intergrate with all these multi nationals, and we will not see the benefits in our life times.

- Jude, UK, 03/08/2009 12:55
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More spin from Crash Gordon, Mandy and their sad band of No Hopers.

What we really need is a sign at the border saying 'Closed - Sorry we are FULL, please try France!'

- Mark Myword, London, 03/08/2009 12:53
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We don't want or need any more asylum seekers.

- Lin, London England, 03/08/2009 12:18
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Only the other week ALAN JOHNSON said he would lose no sleep if the population rose to 70 million.
Over-Population is one of the Worlds major problems, so why are we importing it into thIs small island.
Is it any wonder nothing seems to work right in this country, with witless Politicians like ours.

- Ezza, lancashire, ENGLAND, 03/08/2009 12:10
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In Labours brave new world the points system will run something like this,10 points for being a radical Islamist who threatens are security and preaches treason.9 points for being a foreign criminal,8 points if you have 10 children who you cant support and need social housing,7 points as long as your religious beliefs are anything but christian,6 points if you cant speak English and refuse to adopt our culture and don't respect it,5 points as long as you intend to vote Labour,4 points if you detest the British,3 points if you are offended by the cross of saint George,2 points if you accuse every body that disagrees with you of being a racist,1 point if you are genuinely persecuted and tortured in your country and in real need of sanctuary.And if your indigiones to the UK and work and support yourself just as your parents and grand parents did,and you are patriotic and a christian you will have to leave the UK and reapply for entry but you are unlikely to be granted entry as you will not be able to amass enough points,and in any case we will need your job and housing to give to the above.

- Kev, London-UK, 03/08/2009 11:58
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Before the asylum (parliament) broke up for their summer hols, Brown ordered each department to make two announcements per week.
This is just another announcement. No basis, no facts all spin, and it will never happen.
Alan Johnson recently told us that he would lose no sleep if the population rose to seventy million.
To put a brake on immigration there has to be the will within government to do it. There is no such will in this government so don't hold your breath.
Our borders will remain open until this lot go, or until the infrastructure collapses under the strain of too many people in too little space.

- Ronnie, Billericay UK, 03/08/2009 11:54
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Mr Alan Johnson,
Mentality of law has to change, not actual article of the law.Some law-abiding foreigners getting more abuses than actual people who are commiting crime and frauds. Many times ý have witnessed that British system is biased and has prejudices against to foreigners. I remember David Blunkett was saying about ''INTEGRATION''TO be achieved last 10 years but nothing has been done about it. I think segregation is the main problem of the country. PEOPLE DO NOT TRUST IN EACH OTHER, STATE DOES NOT TRUST IN ITS OWN PEOPLE AND PEOPLE DOESNT RELY ON THE STATEMEN. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS LACK OF TRUST.
I think you have to establish the value of trust before you do anything.First of all you have to make yourself clear that you are trustworthy and honest person with integrity. I have got some doubt about this.Yourself is very suspicious about the implementation of the policies. All the politicians last 10 years were trying to solve British immigration policy and they have changed nothing at all. And most importantly, British Ýmmigration policy has been establised on the basis of 9/11, incident in THE USA. Real immigration policy based on justice and honesty never been materalised. FOR THÝS REASON ALONE, YOU MUSNT EXPECT HONESTY, LOYALITY AND DEDICATION AND PATRIOTISM FROM PEOPLE ORIGINALLY COMES FROM OVERSEAS. MR JOHNSON, GO BACK TO YOUR OFFICE AND CLAIM SOME MORE EXPENSES. THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE VERY EXCEL AND PROFESSIONAL. ALL THE BEST .
ilyas orhanlý

- Ilyas Orhanli, Manchester, 03/08/2009 11:46
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Who is buying this meaningless waffle? This is guy is supposed to be a well respected member of this country’s government and, unbelievably, he is actually being paid to come with this “policy”. This government never had any control on immigration, and it is already way too late.

With this bunch of incompetent fools still running our country we really are deep in it with no way back.

- Xtremely Worried, Britain (Formerly Great), 03/08/2009 11:42
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No need to tamper with immigration rules. REFORM THE BENEFITS SYSTEM! Housing, health, education, child benefit are there for people to help themselves. Why wouldn't everyone one want to come to this country. Child benefit is paid without even checking if the child lives in this country, housing (council and prival rentals) is allocated to people who simply turn up here.
There should be an audit of benefits of all kinds paid to EU citizens and reciprocal payments to British citizens in the EU. The whole thing is a farce. If people knew that they would get no benefits at all for 5 years, they would not be in such a hurry to come.

- Beatriz, London, 03/08/2009 11:41
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The BBC won't wear it.
The BBC is the official voice of the race relations industry & "human rights" lawyers, and al Beeb is already rubbishing it.

Our borders are barely controlled & once anyone gets in they are virtually impossible to throw out.

Like everything from this government, promises which can never be fulfilled.

Remember the Afghan hijackers who Jack Straw was going to deport within a week ?

- British Not Racist, Bracknell England, 03/08/2009 11:32
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This is nothing more than political posturing. We have heard these Britain-haters promise to address our concerns over immigration time and again, with every related announcement has proven to be empty rhetoric.
NuLiebour's politically-correct, anti-British dogma will not allow this latest sham announcement to be enacted.
In any event, we cannot effect proper border control whilst we remain a member of the EUromonster.

- Keith Lonsdale, Doncaster, 03/08/2009 11:26
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Why would anyone believe them, have they ever told the truth? none of the mainstream parties will do anything, time for a revolution

- Peter Woods, Essex UK, 03/08/2009 10:45
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It won't happen and he knows it. His own party's human rights legislation would rule out most of his proposals. Just the other week he came out and said he doesn't think mass immigration is a problem - who does he think he's fooling now?

- Kevin T, Beckenham, Kent, 03/08/2009 10:37
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Would-be migrants from outside the EU are already subject to a points-based system, introduced last year, which permits access to the UK only if they have skills needed by the British economy.

I had no idea that we were short of muggers, rapists, murderers, fraudsters, war criminals and welfare scroungers

- Jimbob, Kensington, 03/08/2009 10:27
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Ok its obvious timing to win the BNP/UKIP vote, its taken 12 years to become forefront topic and it'll still take 2 years to bring into force. However whoever wins the election needs to bring this in quickly, and its got to be practical, common sense and clear cut.
Immigration if policed properly is a great thing, many folks in the UK have foreign blood in their veins, but our weak system has been seen as joke and exploited especially for the last decade.
Why wait, bring in the points system now as a guide line, stop the asylum seekers, stop those who abuse the benefit systems and for those who hate western values or the points system remove them and fly them back to their place of origin no matter the circumstances (BA could do with the business!).

- Harsh But Fair, London, 03/08/2009 10:18
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Labour and the Tories have had 60 years to address this issue.

I can only repeat what other readers have said, far too little, far too late

Congratulations to New Labour on destroying the social fabric and identity of our country

- Lb, London, 03/08/2009 10:05
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Go back to being a postman Johnson-though I doubt whether you would be capable of doing that properly!What a pathetic Government this is.

- Alan, Chigwell.UK, 03/08/2009 09:56
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Too little, far too late!

- Sue, Orpington, Kent, 03/08/2009 09:14
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This move is just so obvious it is laughable.

1/. It is far too little too late;
2/. It is blatant and cynical electioneering ploy.

It is an act of desperation and an insult to the intelligence of the British public. Labour will reap what they have sowed.

- Frank, Home Counties, England., 03/08/2009 08:58
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all well and good but what about all the failed asylum seekers and illegals? this only affects those trying to obtain citizenship legally. the failed asylum situation seems to other a massive loophole to labours supposedly more discriminatory immigration policy. its a joke, as are they.

- Aesir, limbo, 03/08/2009 08:34
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Far too little; far to late. And what will the governmnet do, if anything, about the large number of illegal immigrants receiving NHS treatment at massive cost to the UK taxpayer?

- Richard Kennard, Welling, 03/08/2009 08:16
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