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Well I for one am made up for Wonnie an' I nevah fort I'd say this but fair play to Jackie Stwaw n'all. Fanks to 'is chawitable gesture old Wonnie 'as wallied an' is almost back to 'is perky cheeky chappie self, see you dahn ve Beffnal Gween Woad Wonnie, there's a dwink waiting for you in the Salmon an Ball or get dahn the Whitechapel Woad, The Gwave Mowwis an vat uvvah pub where yer old mate Jack Ve Hat got it fwom Weggie or was it Wonnie, who nose 'n' who cares eh?

- Ranter, Maidstone, UK, 12/08/2009 08:10
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The mind boggles!

I asked before how many fingers he was using when he waved to the guards on his release - now it's confirmed. He only needed two.

And for the "he's served his time" crowd - it is also a crime to escape from prison. You get time added on for that (unless you can soft-soap the gullible).

- Rogan, Irving, 12/08/2009 06:12
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I thought this cowardly scumbag was supposed to be at
death's door?

And what exactly does his son do for an income? Is
he claiming benefits? Have either of these wasters
ever done an honest days work in their lives?

- Lb, Bromley, 11/08/2009 22:40
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Hello London,
Hi Mickinlondon, thanks for all your replies, as I said before we all have a point of view.
Before I close you could write a best seller, this is better than T.V., as for Scarborough if you've never been we do have a lot of Brits here, and like London never dull, but I'm glad we don't have the wild west?.
Stop it Mick, no I can't see The Queen going down the Mall in the State Coach with H.R.H. Prince Philip riding shot-gun, Leave It?.

- John L., Scarborough N.YKS. England. U.K., 11/08/2009 22:11
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Good on him. I hope he has a few good years of enjoying life.

- Corbo, Norwich England, 11/08/2009 22:10
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There but for the grace of god; I and many others could have easily been in Ronnie Biggs shoes; so I understand him better than most; and I forgive him for his past.
- Mickinlondon, london.

Speak for yourself, most people would not easily be in Ronnie Biggs shoes. Don't class everyone as obnoxious as yourself.

- Pat, Essex, 11/08/2009 22:06
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He should have been released years ago.
Good luck to you and the family.

- Andy Parks, London, UK, 11/08/2009 22:00
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Biggsie will have a guest spot on EastEnders next. I'm sure that Peggy (who was in real life a chum of the Krays) will put on a good old EastEnd knees up for him - "a gent of the old school."

You couldn't make it up.

- John, East Grinstead, UK, 11/08/2009 21:49
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Jack, I think you've been well and truly had over.

- Mike, Herts, 11/08/2009 21:44
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Hello Ed, London.

I have not glorified any criminal actions by anyone; and I do not blame society for anything at all; what is; is: and those are the facts, none of which I make or even made; personally etc.

I was the victim of an attempted mugging about five years ago; I don’t blame society for that; to me the muggers were to blame; all I did was knock one out cold; and battered the other four with all I had, just fists and experience etc; this I agree was sheer violence on my part; but I am still alive and kicking today; and I apologize for nothing.

But like Ronnie; I am not going to turn myself in to the police either; even though I broke the law.

I see it this way; it’s better to end up in court alive to face my crimes; then end up in a grave yard dead; and if I got 30 years for my crime; I would do my best to escape; and Brazil is as good as anywhere else; mind you I would come home to die naturally.

Some people are lucky in life; Ed, and some ain’t; and some just get on with the cards they are dealt.

If you knew me; I think you would be surprised at my luck. But that’s my secret…

People on line; are not often what they seem; Ed.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 17:12
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I thought Biggs was supposd to bring a knowledgeable driver into the gang.
Driver Mills was battered because he had shut off the main switch at the back of the cab and no-one knew how to get the locomotive going.Biggs had not got the required expertise on board. The era of personal responsibility ended when Driver Mills heroism and sense of duty was publicly thrown in the media waste bin. Having a sense of duty was just laughed at after this robbery. Anyone want to read about Driver Mills life story?

- Terence Wright, Crediton Devon, 11/08/2009 16:58
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Hi John L Scarborough.

I don’t drink period; so it’s a waste of time anyone inviting me out for a drink; unless its tea.

Mind you; Tea and Crumpets at the rest centre is ok; it’s free for old age pensions there.

Who needs money old money or new money anyway; it’s not worth a light today; but a good tale is always worth listening to; and 40 years driving a cab; I have lots of true stories to tell.

Is Scarborough like Southend, John; if it is Ronnie will love it; Southend is like Brazil; hardly any Brits at all.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 16:52
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Paul,London.Don't be so simplistic,he wasn't in a national health service hospital,he was in a prison hospital.and he hasn't been sent home,he is now in a national health service hospital,and for your information there is a vast difference.Don't be so trite it just proves my point about people posting out of ignorance.Actually up to a point you are right,people do recover better at home,that is one reason they discharge you as quickly as is safe to after treatment.

- Kev, London-UK, 11/08/2009 16:43
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Quote: David, London. Mickinlondon

Do you realise what a complete tool you sound like?

Is that tool or fool David?

If I am a complete tool, then I am fit for the job a tool does.

If I am a fool, I only have my war education to blame for that affliction, plus my old age dementia.

What is your excuse David?

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 15:44
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Quote: Keith Price, Luton England. What I don't like about Ronnie Biggs is his refusal to apologise for the death of the railman caught up in the train robbery. Not one ounce of ewmorse was ever shown

Sorry Keith; Ronnie Biggs had nothing to apologize for over Mills death; he died of Leukaemia seven years later; in-case you did not know that fact.

And by the way Keith; Biggs never coshed Mills at all?

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 15:38
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MickinLondon - your justifications are ridiculous. Isn't it about time you grew up instead of glorifying criminal activities and blaming society for any wrongdoing.

I see other people have posted comments supporting Biggs - reality is if they were victims of crime, would they be happy to see people supporting the criminal? No is the answer.

He was part of a violent gang. He was caught and escaped. He spent many years abroad. If he was sorry he would have turned himself in long ago. Scum.

- Ed, London, 11/08/2009 15:37
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"Its a well observed phenomena that your environment effects your health both mental and physical,people thrive under ideal conditions,just like plants and our fellow animals,and that's a fact,hence the improvement in his health" - Right, Kev, so anyone who is close to death should be sent home and they'll get better - brilliant! It'll save the NHS a fortune.

- Paul, London, 11/08/2009 15:37
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I wonder if the same people are happy that someone has escaped british justice and shown no remorse for his crime would be so happy if someone broke into their house got caught and convicted and then legged it to Brazil and then turned up 30yrs later skint and needing NHS care and then got let off

I doubt it very much, the only difference is that people have this romantic version of villians of the 60's which have been glorified by all the books that have been written which makes them sound like little rascals rather than nasty individuals and bullies

- Steven Jones, london, 11/08/2009 15:34
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Good Afternoon John, London.

I was still in the ring with pros and top amateurs at 60 years of age; just seven years ago actually; but my point was the injuries Mills received etc; had the blow been brutal; Mills would have been knocked cold, maybe even a fractured skull as well etc; but all he had was a facial injury; namely a black eye; he was not kept in Hospital etc.

I also do not glorify anyone in my posts; and if Ronnie Biggs had attacked me in the past or even today; I would soon hit back far worse etc; for that I also would be called a thug etc. But law or no law; I defend myself and my own the best way I can; after all the law doesn’t defend anyone till after the event; and that is a little late in my opinion.

All I try to say John: is my opinion, and give my views on past events which I remember well; as I was actually around at those times etc; if I know nothing; I say nothing.

The comparison with British Bankers has no basis; Bankers rob pension funds and exploit everyone; The Train Robbers; only robbed the train carrying money to be destroyed by the Bank of England etc.

For the record John; the Train Robbery did capture most peoples imagination; and for a while they were admired for their commando style raid on that train etc; this infuriated the Government; and made the Police look stupid etc; hence the 30 years; and at that time, we all knew it was State Vengeance; not normal state justice etc…….Mick.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 15:32
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Roll out the barrel...your anin' a larf in't yer!
Is he gonna do the London marathon, then?

- Jayonly, Kingston upon Hull, 11/08/2009 15:29
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well i have said it before and ill say it again
GULLABLE AINT YOU MR STRAW
Conned goog and proper by the master of con men ronnie and his well taught son dead before the weekend is done you said well the way he is going i recon he will be dancin at the pally soon doing the milletery salute to us all
Again
well i suppose silt milk and all that but it aint right no matter wot anyone says it just aint
he got 30 years and regardless wot pepol serve nowdays in them days it meant a lot longer plus the mandetery extra for escaping and he should have been made to serve it even if it meant dieing in clink
a just sentence for a just crime but not a just law saved him doing the time
WOT A CON

- Time Served Old Lag, london uk, 11/08/2009 15:23
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Biggs has served his time. For killing an innocent pedestrian you only get 3 years in prison. The establishment comprises lunatics. They pick and choose who they are vindictive to.

- Ankar, London, 11/08/2009 15:13
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Paul, you would be happy if Biggs' skeleton remained in jail. You vindictive horrible man. A stint in jail would do you some good.

- Kez, London, 11/08/2009 15:10
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Bet you rooted for him in the movie Buster… idiots the lot of you!"
That was acompletely different train robber, you fool Paul

- Keith Price, Luton England, 11/08/2009 15:08
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Am I right in thinking tha Ronnie Bigg's son Michael is Brazilian? So can we expect him to be repatriated after his father's demize or will he apply for ' leave to remain in the UK' like so many of the Brazilians in this country...Any one remember the Brazilian maid and the Immigration Judge, she was the one who went to prison, i believe she is still here in London, will this be the same for ' Biggs's son'

- Annie, Devon, 11/08/2009 14:52
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So a decent old person is denied a place in a nursing home, so a parasitic, lowlife criminal, can get a free bed, and food, probably a state pension, medical care, social worker, room cleaned regulaurly, etc, etc.

I wish he would just die, rather than this drawn out bloody circus.

Also why hasn't his so called son, given a DNA test to prove he should be allowed here.

- P Staker, London, 11/08/2009 14:46
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To Mickinlondon,
Hi Mick, don't know what planet your on but Ronnie (THE SCUMBAG) would like to take you out for a drink, only you'll have to pay because the money he has in his safe as gone out of circulation.
Enjoy.... Cheers.

- John L., Scarborough N.YKS. England. U.K., 11/08/2009 14:33
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It must be a miracle..............first he is dying now he is ready to update his autobiography, has appeared on TV, what next? A stint on Big Brother perhaps????
It's a farce!

- Val, London, UK, 11/08/2009 14:28
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Ronnie Biggs is a convicted criminal who only served one third of his sentence,that is the plain simple truth,he is not a hero or celebrity but simply a thief,-i am sick of hearing morons glorifying the actions of this criminal and bleating about murderers today only getting eight years inside,its totally irrelevant,he was sentenced 46yrs ago to the letter of the law at that time,and if the train driver had died at the scene of that crime then Biggs would have been hung,its all very simple if you take the time to think before spouting rubbish.

- Jacob, Canterbury Gulag England, 11/08/2009 14:28
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Nice one, Ronnie - and two-up in V formation to Straw and all those miserable, fantasist, armchair thief-catchers who've kicked you when you were down.

- Ted, London, 11/08/2009 14:27
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Sue - Orpington. You clearly know nothing about the Kray twins. They were evil bullies who got what they wanted by taking it. There were child molesters and killers in their day too. Brady & Hindly to name but two.

As for Biggsy. Good luck to him. Even if he is on benefits it will be cheaper than keeping him in the pokie.

- Bj, London, 11/08/2009 14:21
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Funny how people love prison escape and heist movies (rooting for the criminals), yet when we have the real deal you all scream and shout for justice. Murders and rapists spend less time in jail than Biggs did. Bet you rooted for him in the movie Buster… idiots the lot of you!

- Paul, London, 11/08/2009 14:02
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What I don't like about Ronnie Biggs is his refusal to apologise for the death of the railman caught up in the train robbery. Not one ounce of ewmorse was ever shown

- Keith Price, Luton England, 11/08/2009 13:57
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In Biggs's defense: he was not the mastermind, he was not the man who coshed the driver, and coshing the driver was not part of the plan he was in on. He was a bit-part criminal. And now he's a harmless old man who may or may not survive a serious illness.

If there was ever a case for imprisoning him in his dotage, it was to deter others. But no-one gets 30 years for robbery these days. Very few get 30 years for MURDER. The truly evil people who killed baby P will all be out within five years. So who would be deterred?

Let a frail old man enjoy a few beers in a pub before he passes away. Let's keep dying of old age behind bars for those who are a threat to the public for as long as they breathe, such as sadistic killers and paedophile rapists.

- Nigel, London, 11/08/2009 13:53
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Mickinlondon

Do you realise what a complete tool you sound like?

- David, London, 11/08/2009 13:32
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MickinLondon:

Jack Mills was 57 and hit round the face with the handle of an axe; you're comparing that with choosing to be in a boxing ring, presumably thirty (forty would be possible!) years younger.

Look, we all learn from our past, and you're right that in different circumstances we could all end up in some pretty nasty places. I really don't understand, however, why you glorify a man who traumatised his victim to the extent that he never worked again, whilst Biggs went on the run to live off the spoils of his crime.

That's not decent, honourable behaviour, it's the same mindset that directors of banks and large corporations have when exploiting the working-class and honest, decent people of Britain today.

- John, London, 11/08/2009 13:22
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A lot of the comments here are based on pure ignorance.Its a well observed phenomena that your environment effects your health both mental and physical,people thrive under ideal conditions,just like plants and our fellow animals,and that's a fact,hence the improvement in his health,Mr Biggs did not hit Mr Mills,and Mr Mills died years latter from cancer.Mr Biggs received his 30 yr jail sentence simply because he was part of a gang that had the audacity to rob a ROYAL MAIL TRAIN,the state is vindictive in the extreme.Contrast his sentence with those handed to the killers of baby p,or some yobs that gang rape a young girl and pour caustic soda over her to destroy the evidence of there evil deed,then any sane and rational person will come to the conclusion that Mr Biggs sentence was unjust.I'm pleased he escaped,and I'm pleased he had a good time in Brazil while on the run,and I'm pleased his health has improved and i hope he goes on to enjoy a happy and long old age.And I'm pleased he beat a vindictive and unjust establishment.Good luck Mr Biggs.

- Kev, London-UK, 11/08/2009 13:15
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Sue, I know Orpington's gone a bit downhill, but I didn't realise you had to make a choice about what criminals you had to live next to!

If you had asked Biggs on conviction if he'd like to postpone his sentence for 30 odd years he'd have taken it like a shot - he should have been left to finish his sentence.

- Paul, London, 11/08/2009 13:09
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Am I dreaming two days ago they gave him 48 hours to live. now he's recovered.
Put whatever medicine he had on the market he would make a fortune.

Jack Straw should be inside now. Biggs wss no Robin Hood just a nasty peice of work.

- Terence Mccarthy, South Africa, 11/08/2009 12:53
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MickinLondon, so you forgive him because you said you have done wrong in your time.

Why do you support people who escape british justice and show no remorse for their crimes. What crime do people have to do for you say lock them up.

Your fairytale life of the East End is what is wrong with people, I get fed up with people saying how good an honest the Kray Twins and their lot were, there were bullies and murderers. Ronnie BIggs did the crime it doesnt matter if he is ill, he should serve and finish his sentance and if that means he dies in prison...tough

- Steven Jones, london, 11/08/2009 12:52
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Perhaps we should put him in to bat for england

- Richard Edmunds, Rayleigh Essex, 11/08/2009 12:34
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Quote: Sue, Orpington, Kent. I'd rather have Ronnie Biggs (even the Cray twins if they were still alive) as my next door neighbours, than the scum of the earth that's around today, Baby Peter's Mother, step-father and his Brother for example.

So would I; Sue.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 12:30
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DOES ANYONE REMEMBER EARNEST SAUNDERS HE MADE A MIRICLE CURE FROM ALZHEIMERS WHEN HE WAS RELEASED EARLY BUT HIS WAS A WHITE COLLAR CRIME

- Anon, leicestershire, 11/08/2009 12:25
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What a miracle!!!!! Who on earth would have believed it?

Now he's better, send him back to prison, to rot away and die, yes DIE he has been a parasite from the day he was born, and also had a string of offences before the robbery, he has conned the establishment yet again.

Oh and mick in london, is he your ex lover or something, as you seem to be carrying a huge torch for the old scumbag.

Everytime his name is mentioned, along skips good ol mick in london, bleating away about "poor ol ronnie".

- Daisy Willetts, London, 11/08/2009 12:21
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Quote: John, London. Biggs didn't "only" rob a train, he was part of a team that bludgeoned an innocent man leaving him with severe head injuries.

John: Jack Mills got a black-eye from a axe handle, Hardly Bludgeoned etc; I have had worse in boxing rings with gloves on my and my opponents hands etc; they heal fast John, they are not life-threatening etc; remember also that Jack died seven years later of leukaemia etc; aged 65 years; my father died at 55 years of age of much the same thing etc; cancer.

Quote:: Ronnie has never said he's sorry and he's never shown any regret that an innocent man suffered hugely so he could go off swanning around the world.

John: I have done wrong in my life as well; and I am not sorry for that either; the truth is it happened, and I learned etc.

Ronnie Biggs could have lied and said he was sorry; instead he told it as it was; and in honesty; something Jack Straw could learn by.

Quote: Do you really support people who act like this?

John: I am working class, I am street wise; and I defend myself against all; Ronnie is much like many older Londoners; we went through WW2, we witnessed death and destruction, we were poor, we were hungry; those days were unlike anything we know today.

There but for the grace of god; I and many others could have easily been in Ronnie Biggs shoes; so I understand him better than most; and I forgive him for his past.

If he laughs at justice; I know he has good reason too….Mick.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 12:09
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yet again we stand the three card trick send the old bastard packing with is son?that is if he his his son he refuses to taker a dna test WHY

- Terry Chambers, London, 11/08/2009 12:04
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It's seems odd that the cost of imprisoning, policing and medical bills, including the overall judicial process no doubt charged hansomely by the big wigs, far outstrips Bigg's share of the 'Great Train Robbery' booty but the entire amount taken in the raid. Where is the sense.

Meanwhile a childs life is only worth 5 years (perhaps).

We are the mugs paying for this charade.

- Hansel, London, 11/08/2009 11:50
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"Well, must be back to prison or be deported then"

Deported where?

- Michael, London, 11/08/2009 11:38
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I'd rather have Ronnie Biggs (even the Cray twins if they were still alive) as my next door neighbours, than the scum of the earth that's around today, Baby Peter's Mother, step-father and his Brother for example!

- Sue, Orpington, Kent, 11/08/2009 11:28
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Mickinlondon,

Biggs didn't "only" rob a train, he was part of a team that bludgeoned an innocent man leaving him with severe head injuries.

Ronnie has never said he's sorry and he's never shown any regret that an innocent man suffered hugely so he could go off swanning around the world.

Do you really support people who act like this?

- John, London, 11/08/2009 11:20
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Well, must be back to prison or be deported then

- Cat, Essex, 11/08/2009 11:10
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If he recovers then he should go back inside or send him back to Brazil. Whatever happens her should not get another penny from the tax payer.

- Justin, London, 11/08/2009 11:08
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It's another miracle! Has he been worshipping at the shrine of Ernest Saunders?

- Chuck Unsworth, London, 11/08/2009 11:05
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All at taxpayer's expense.

He will be off to Hollywood next - laughing his socks off at the incompetent Jackboot Straw and the rest of the muppets in the Gnome Office.

- Reuben Camara, Republic of Morecambe, UK, 11/08/2009 10:42
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Good Luck Ronnie.

Good luck Michael.

Take no notice of the hang-em brigade; you only robbed a train Ron, [ not an easy thing to do ] but it would have been better if you robbed a pension fund or mugged an old lady of her pension; which is much the same thing; then you would have only got community service, and social workers to protect your identity.

Good luck again Ronnie; and you have a great son mate.

- Mickinlondon, london., 11/08/2009 10:40
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Like Ernest Saunders and Augusto Pinochet before him . . .

- Roz, France, 11/08/2009 09:41
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'Staging a fightback', 'I might even surprise them all by lasting until Christmas' - oh pleease!

Now he has secured his release Biggs will experience a miracle recovery and in a couple of months be down the pub boasting that, yet again, he got one over the authorities.

- Mark Myword, London, 11/08/2009 09:36
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