Reader views (66)

 Add your view

All three main political parties treat the people of the U.K. as children. They offer no choice on any of the main issues. All three offered the people a say on the E.U. Constitution (Lisbon Treaty) at the last election, then decided that 'the children' wouldn't make the right decision on the U.K. becoming a part of a new larger country. The main parties always knows "what's best for the rest", always put their opinions and views above those they represent. Capital punishment. Immigration. The U.K. changing from country to E.U. province. On every major issue the small elitist clique knows what's best for the rest, saying one thing before an election and doing the opposite after the election. Labour to Conservative to Labour to Conservative to Labour to Conservative. When will the people finally wake up to the fact that Labour and Conservative and the LibDems are not their only voting alternatives?!?! At next year's 'lollipop time', shake things up!

- Phil Jones, London UK, 13/11/2009 10:47
Report abuse

NJ, London cannot see what the problem is if people feel that communities that have been totally transformed into something totally alien to them......and if we disagree we are a raving racist.....you are not Gordon Brown in disguise are you?!?!?!?

I have seen my area turn into a mini version of Lagos, i sit on the bus and im the only white person on it, i walk down the high street and all i see is money transfer and specialist ethnic food/hair shops. In a area that i once felt was my own, i now feel totally alienated by the effects of mass immigration. Most English people have been forced to move out of areas that they have deep social roots in because of this drastic change.

But just keep closing your eyes and ears to people's genuine concerns and just label us all racists, it shows who the real narrow minded bigots are

- Lb, London, 13/11/2009 09:55
Report abuse

Nj - tell me where I mentioned a dislike for any of the places I've mentioned. Did you see me state that I hate Tooting, Southall, Limehouse & Shadwell (both of which I've stopped in for work purposes)? I really should take action against you for defamation of character, regards calling me a racist, but I can't be bothered.

Incidentally, there maybe a Riverside Studios in Hammersmith, but there are also Riverside Sutdios in Southall - I've worked on Poirot there.

- Jock, Ardmair, Scotland, 13/11/2009 00:36
Report abuse

The political truth is that Labour hope all these millions of immigrants will become UK citizens and then vote for Labour, who granted them their status. The reason the evil BNP have (2 MEPs, Assembly Member and Councillors) is due the lawless Labour immigration policy, which has been uncontrolled. The white working class no longer have a party, which represents them on bread and butter issues. What I think is very British is the way the population, on the whole, has not turned on the immigrants and have rejected the BNP while wanting balanced immigration policy. What we have is an unbalanced and poorly administered one. If its broken change the Government.

- Andrew, London, 12/11/2009 17:15
Report abuse

contolling doctors etc will that overcome the problem of only hearing foreign languages spoken in the supermarkets. The increase of shops with signs in a foreign language overcrowded private rented houses.

- Pat, east london, 12/11/2009 17:06
Report abuse

Nj,-top notch comment,lol.

- Rebel Without A Causeway, OAP wasteland Britain, 12/11/2009 16:42
Report abuse

- Jock, Ardmair, Scotland So, you travelled through Limehouse and Shadwell on the DLR (but didn’t get off), have walked through Southall to the Riverside Studios a couple of times (isn’t’ that in Hammersmith anyway?), and you had the 'misfortune' to visit Tooting (or was it Tooting that had the misfortune of you visiting?). So based on your extensive research can you explain what it was that gave you an almost overwhelmingly instant dislike of those places? As I say unless you’re a raving racist I can’t see what your problem is.

- Nj, London, 12/11/2009 16:18
Report abuse

Somehow, saying that "I told you so" about the Labour gerrymandering agenda on immigration over and over again never did make me feel any better. And now that GB is playing election games with it just leaves a greater than normal sour taste in the mouth. (It's a little like a cynical retailer that pushes prices up steadily to well over the product value, then announces to all that he's having a sale - and bringing the price back down to where it should have been in the first place, to bring people into his store, deluded into thinking they were getting a comparative bargain).

You don't have to be a Tory to be disgusted by this - plenty of people who would more naturally vote for the Labour party are too, I'm thinking.

- Rogan, Irving, 12/11/2009 16:00
Report abuse

What a load of garbage from Brown. This government has implemented a deliberate policy of destroying the " English way of life" and diluting our nationality. We keep being told that we should rejoice in our multi cultural society but no government has ever asked the electorate if they wanted one. It's not racialist , more a question of numbers and the difference those large number of immigrants make to the social fabric of society. In simple terms we have had too much of a good thing. These must be the most hypercritical words ever to come from Brown's mouth and heaven knows this is some achievement considering the rubbish we have listened to since he became PM.

- Robin Brittain, Wolverhampton UK, 12/11/2009 15:04
Report abuse

This Britain-hating traitor will say anything to try and save his own political skin, but there is no chance of his empty rhetoric being transformed into action, it runs contrary to NuLiebour dogma.
Brown is an established serial-liar and this announcement should be seen in that light.

- Keith Lonsdale, Doncaster, 12/11/2009 14:55
Report abuse

He and his oparty have worked to destroy our country and culture by social engineering and will continue to do so whatever he says.

- Rikrok, London, 12/11/2009 13:58
Report abuse

We have far too many unskilled immigrants from third world nations already in this nation. Labours past and current polices have created high crime ghettos all around London, nothing they say now will change this fact. Immigration must be tightened to such a point that only highly skilled people in unique fields should be allowed in, and then, only on temporary status for 5 years. No benefits should be made available to any migrant until they have worked continously for 5 years in the UK. If they lose their job they should return back to their country of origin, its that simple. Saying all this, the Labour party IS NOT the party that would enforce such common sense and that is why they will lose the next election by a landslide.

- Porky Pies, Land of Make Believe, London, 12/11/2009 13:55
Report abuse

It is not the immigrants that are the problem it is the fact that central government did not pay the local authorities for the extra burden on education, housing, social needs, e.g. health needs, translators and the burden fell on Council tax payers. If you are serious Mr Brown instead of using your surveillance on the middle class use it on the illegal immigrants in this country and deport them. Only then will the voters take you seriously. You can fool some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time but you seem to think you can fool all the people all the time. It's a pity your government is not as transparent as you are!

- Patricia, LONDON, 12/11/2009 13:40
Report abuse

Bringing in skilled immigrants means that we continue to dodge training our own people and then need even more immigrants. Even Latvia is complaining about its health services being severely affected by trained people coming to Britain.

The policy is short-sighted and both damaging to Britain and unfair to other countries.

We used to train enough people. Why not now?

- Mike Newland, London, England, 12/11/2009 13:16
Report abuse

Yeah we believe you Mr Brown and pigs really do fly!

- Goggs, London, 12/11/2009 13:09
Report abuse

Kev - don't be naive - Brown has been part and parcel of NuLabour's social re-engineering (and bankrupting) of the UK since the outset.

- Susie, London, 12/11/2009 13:02
Report abuse

If we are talking about kicking those individuals who sponge, scam and lie out of our glorious country I would suggest starting with Brown, Bliar, Harpy and Mandelspin.

If they love Europe so much banish them to it. NEVER to return.

- Jimbob, Kensington, 12/11/2009 12:38
Report abuse

I love it when politicians, near election time,
say "we need a national debate on immigration"

That debate was held 30 years ago by the old
working class, 20 years ago by the lower middle
classes, & now by the educated middle classes.

You see, only the very rich can afford private education now,
professional & high skill jobs are being exported or subject
to a Dutch Auction with immigrants.

Left/Liberal Hampstead types are now suffering street crime,
in fact only BBC employees & the very wealthy still
don't need that conversation.
Yet.

The debate was had years ago Mr Brown, we are not
BNPers to want our country back.
But you, Mr Brown, & your value free party have tied us
into the EU & "human Rights"
You cannot & will not do anything.
I just hope Cameron develops a backbone on this one.
Otherwise UKIP is the only answer, & it's being bankrupted
by this government & its agencies.

- British Not Racist, Reading, 12/11/2009 12:33
Report abuse

Now that Lisbon is in law lets stat applying (or selectively ignoring)the same rules as those just across the channel. After all there is supposed to be "Common Policy" on such matters

- Richard, Birmingham, 12/11/2009 12:26
Report abuse

Mr Pastry, Brisbane Australia

Surely you're having a laugh? Blair and Brown caused the immigration problem, so Brown is now trying to sort out his own mess! The man and his cronies are totally incompetent and should NOT be running the country. It is too late regarding immigration; the damage has been done and nulabour have very successfully created a divisive and incohesive society. Brown and Blair should both be prosecuted for crimes against the state as they have managed to marginilise the indigenous people of this country and damage our culture. This is in breach of a UN charter.

- Margy, London, 12/11/2009 12:23
Report abuse

Nj - Actually, I have been to all the places I mention. I lived in Balham for 12 years, firstly in Du Cane Court, and then on Boundaries Road. My local was Blithe Spirit. I had the misfortune to visit Tooting on a number of occasions. I worked for Credit Suisse in Cabot Sq, Canary Wharf, so frequently saw Limehouse and Shadwell from the DLR. As for Southall, I've walked through the town centre to Riverside Studios numerous times. Now how would I know these small details if I'd never been to the places?

As for the immigrants on buses up to Scotland, the newspapers in Scotland did a big expose on them not so long ago. So it's common knowledge up here, not barside bunkum. Still, I suppose people inside the M25 prefer to bury their heads in the sand, rather than acknowledge the existence of things beyond - except when it suits them.

- Jock, Ardmair, Scotland, 12/11/2009 12:23
Report abuse

@ Croyboy, Croydon: My 40,000 figure was based on a Home Office statement made last week.

Silly me! Taking any notice of what the Home Office are spouting!!

There are probably 4,000,000 illegal immigrants in the UK - nobody in government has a clue.

- Reuben Camara, Plot 1, Morecambe Compound, EUSSR, 12/11/2009 12:09
Report abuse

Reuben Camara wrote "what about the 40,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in the UK that the Home Office cannot find?"
You've got your figures wrong, Reuben: in July 2007 there were an estimated 400,000 illegals in London alone! (according to "Strangers into Citizens", who are campaigning for an amnesty)

- Croyboy, Croydon, 12/11/2009 11:48
Report abuse

Come on - there must be at least one Labour supporter out there who wants to comment positively about this initiative.

Your silence is deafening.

- Patrick, London, 12/11/2009 11:47
Report abuse

After 12 years of looking after our borders, sometime in the future Gordon Brown would like start controlling them. Who believes that?

The question we all have is not about the asylum seekers – the UK is always open to those wishing to be free of oppression (Although Gordon Browns country seems a strange place to escape that). It is the migrants that have lied, cheated and foisted themselves up on us, then played the system. These are in reality criminals, carrying out practices that no UK citizen would be permitted to do without serious consequence.

Gordon Brown over the last 12 years has always be a pretender, he has pretended to be Chancellor, he has pretended to look after our armed forces, he has pretended to secure our borders while at the same time encouraging a flood of what he hopes to be his potential voters should ever have the balls to stand in an election. He is also a pretend leader, which passes the country to others to oversee in the thinking when it all goes wrong it’s not him.

This announcement is not an action, it is a pitiful attempt at electioneering – something he has never tried before.

- Ian B, Reading, England, 12/11/2009 11:40
Report abuse

Does anyone - apart from the bizarre Keith from Luton - believe a single word that comes from Crash's mouth these days?

- Marianne, SW France/London, 12/11/2009 11:40
Report abuse

It is amazing how Mr Brown can turn his hand to any problem and solve it - you must be so proud of him in the UK. I wish we had someone of his quality leading us here in Australia.

- Mr Pastry, Brisbane Australia, 12/11/2009 11:39
Report abuse

See those horses galloping into the distance? They bolted out of the unlocked stable door years ago.

Too little, too late and a sadly desperate attempt to be seen to be 'doing something' with his P45 only 6 months from issuance.

- Nobby Clark, Perth, the Scottish one, 12/11/2009 11:37
Report abuse

Jock, Ardmair, Scotland- What's wrong with Tooting? I've lived there for years and I love the place, yes there is a big Asian population but unless you're a raving racist I can't see why you would have a problem with it. I doubt you have ever been to any of the places you list to be honest and as for your claim that bus loads of immigrants are being shipped up to Glasgow secretly overnight, and proof of that, or did you just hear it down the pub?

- Nj, London, 12/11/2009 11:32
Report abuse

I'd be surprised if Gordon Brown could keep the lid closed on the biscuit tin let alone immigration.

This is all back to front, engineers, Doctors etc are the type of immigrants we require. Its the illegal and economic migrants that are the problem. Anyone found illegaly entering the UK should be deported instantly to their country of origin or the country of departure. The practice of allowing an illegal immigrant bail should be stopped as they have no fixed abode and should be placed in a detention centre or prison.
We should install a similar set of guidelines as Australia you can only take from our benefits system, health, education, welfare state after you have paid in for 5 years.

- Lance Johnson, Canterbury, Kent, 12/11/2009 11:30
Report abuse

No Gordon you won't keep the lid on immigration, you'll do exactly as you are told by Brussels. You can squeal all you like to the press about your efforts to control the masses at the borders but when it comes down to it your unelected masters will dictate to our unelected Prime Minister exactly what he will do. Roll on May 2010, LABOUR OUT !

- Cratchet, HLC, LINCOLNSHIRE., 12/11/2009 11:21
Report abuse

Not doctors Brown but the ignorant, unwashed, economic migrants that need the door shutting in their faces.

- Mowdiwarp, Huddersfield, West Yorks, 12/11/2009 11:13
Report abuse

Read recently that of the top 200 areas for people receiving benefits 189 are represented by Labour.

Labour therefore have no interest in reducing poverty and the benefits trap as they would lose their voter base. So they have imported more poverty (with their disaterous immigration policy) in the most cynical act of gerrymandering to ensure they will NEVER be out of power.

Melvyn and Keith must be so proud.

- Ethan, UK, 12/11/2009 11:04
Report abuse

Don't soft talk us Brown and Co. with your empty promises.You and your government and the liar Blair have caused irreparable damage to the UK with uncontrolled immigration.Your priority should be to GET RID of the bogus asylum seekers and illegal immigrants ASAP.I hope you are proud of creating a divided society and forcing desperate indigenous people to vote for extremist political parties.

- Laura, Epsom, 12/11/2009 10:59
Report abuse

Unfortunately Mr Brown is paying the price of the dreadful Blair,he was the one who deliberately let immigration run away,with the intention of altering the demographics of this country for ever,the reasoning being that immigrants would then vote labour and to spite the right,but he forgot about the core voters who are traditional Labour supporters IE the white working class,who now see every tom dick and harry coming to the UK to take are social housing and use are health service and education system etc,these systems where put in place for those white working class people who now see themselves excluded from those systems that there forefathers fought for,and they are not happy.But of course champaigne socialists like Blair would forget about there core voters would they not,champaigne socialists have about as much in common with the working class as a donkey has with a tiger.

- Kev, London-UK, 12/11/2009 10:46
Report abuse

No one believes you Mr Brown.

- Mr S.Port, London, 12/11/2009 10:44
Report abuse

When will he realise its not the people with qualifications we are worried about the ones who are happy to appply for visas and do things the right way, its the illegal immigrants who come here to milk our benefits system, free NHS and schooling!!

- Louise, London, 12/11/2009 10:41
Report abuse

Quite a sweeping statement there, Frederick. Immigration issues aren't just confined to the South East of England. Many people up here are just as fed up with the immigration debacle as people living inside the M25. Few people I know in "The North" will be voting Labour.

Perhaps you'd like to visit some areas of my home city, Glasgow? I think you'll find them awash with immigrants. Many were shipped up secretly, on buses, overnight. Some places are now similar to Bow, Limehouse, Southall, and Tooting.

- Jock, Ardmair, Scotland, 12/11/2009 10:40
Report abuse

Labour are traitors - that is why they abolished the Treason Acts so they could sell and enslave the British people to the EUSSR and Russian oligarchs. You are nothing but a tool for them to build power and wealth. Wake up before you have sold your children.

- Tony, London, 12/11/2009 10:34
Report abuse

There's a relief. Gordon's going to sort it out. He abolished boom and bust, he brought the country - nay, the world - out of recession. Now he's going to sort out immigration. I look forward to hearing we've pulled out of the EU any day then.

- Kevin T, Beckenham, Kent, 12/11/2009 10:33
Report abuse

Anyone in the current governments unenviable situation should be trying to avoid the issue of immigration at all costs, let's be honest, they have no track record on it as they opened the floodgates and anything that reminds the voting public can only be a bad thing. What happened about the leaked report regarding free for all immigration being a good way to get new Labour voters?

- Bob, Cheam, 12/11/2009 10:25
Report abuse

Judging by the 100% of respondents who detest Brown and his "government" it would appear that Liebour face wipeout at the election, and it can't come quick enough!
And as for any pledge, well, the Jonah effect will come into operation no doubt.

- Albert Hall, Kettering, 12/11/2009 10:21
Report abuse

Mr Brown says "...hospital consultants, civil engineers, aircraft engineers and ships' officers will be removed from a list..."
Surely it's not the professional people coming into this country that are the problem. There are relatively few of them, and these people work, pay taxes and contribute something to U.K society.
The problem lies with asylum seekers and especially illegal immigrants. The Government have admitted that they have no idea how many illegal immigrants there are in the country...But of course it's less complicated if they pick on the easy targets.
Yet more spin from this sorry excuse for a government...But don't think that if "Call me Dave" and his colleagues get into power that they will do much about it either.

- Rodders, Feltham, SWTLand, 12/11/2009 10:18
Report abuse

70mln was last year,

- Jakethesnake, london, haringey, 12/11/2009 10:11
Report abuse

If you think we are in better shape than 13 years ago, have a better quality of life, have more authority over our own lives, have better services, feel safer on our streets and feel the next generation who have been schooled well, have well ajusted individuals who would help an old lady across the road, then vote Labour. Otherwise get Cameron in, put some standards, bite and leadership back into the UK and make us feel proud to be British again! Cameron might not be perfect, but having someone with a spine, convictions to give the UK an identity again which isn't religion or populist biased and also appears to have a morale compass is a definate improvement.
Never voted before, but can't bare to see the monkeys running the zoo anymore!

- Carl, London, 12/11/2009 10:00
Report abuse

. . . . ?!!!*@?!~?!!

Anyone on here regularly will know I'm not usually lost for words . . . !

The Labour Party was set up to improve the lot of the British working classes: the party's treachery is beyond belief.

- Roz, France, 12/11/2009 09:59
Report abuse

Never mind Gormless Brown spouting about foreign doctors - what about the 40,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in the UK that the Home Office cannot find?

- Reuben Camara, Plot 1, Morecambe Compound, EUSSR, 12/11/2009 09:52
Report abuse

Is there any depths that this sickening government will not stoop ?

New Labour has spent the last 12 years trying to tell us that multiculturalism is utopia whilst totally ignoring areas being swamped by mass, third world immigration.......now they want us to trust them on the biggest issue facing this country?

You had 12 years to sort out immigration you laughable cretin, now please stop insulting the general public and just disapear into one of history's great mistakes along with the rest of the traitors in the labour party

- Lb, London, 12/11/2009 09:45
Report abuse

"We will keep a lid on immigration".
Well do it then. Now. Not next week or next month or next year or next century or next millenium. Now.

- Evelyn H, Bromley, UK, 12/11/2009 09:38
Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah...Spin, spin, spin - Yawn!!!

- Mark H, London, England, 12/11/2009 09:30
Report abuse

He left the door wide open for 12 years and just allowed any one to walk in and now he tells us he as a firm control on immigration. Too late Gordon and nu labour you have totally screwed this country up and hopefully at the next election, you lot of wasters will be out of a job.

- Stephend, London, England, 12/11/2009 09:25
Report abuse

Mr Brown has yet to make an inaccurate statement.
He's so honest & wise !

Remember "prudence" - while bankrupting us
"No more Boom & bust", the end to mass unemployment.
Expect a million immigrants if Labour win the next election.

Also, expect a criminal record for "racism" if you complain.

- British Not Racist, Bracknell England, 12/11/2009 09:23
Report abuse

Stable door and horse come to mind!

- Tojo, Hythe, Kent, 12/11/2009 09:23
Report abuse

Haha he is so gone!

- Georgie, Islington, London, 12/11/2009 09:17
Report abuse

What lid?The box has been open for years.

- Steve, London, 12/11/2009 09:11
Report abuse

All too little too late matey boy.

Besides you socialists have come out with a lot of rubbish over 12 years, none of which has happened, most notably election pledges on a certain vote.

We simply do not believe a single word you say.

- Frank, Home Counties, England., 12/11/2009 09:11
Report abuse

Can the PM clarify , to keep them out or keep them in ?

- D.Heselton, Roanne ,FRANCE, 12/11/2009 09:04
Report abuse

Rubbish! Europe decide that now.

- Steve, Brentford, 12/11/2009 09:00
Report abuse

Oh great idea Gormless - stop the skilled,specialised doctors from coming in and never mind the hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers,illegal immigrants and foreign criminals.
Clueless,utterly clueless as always!
And has anyone noticed Nu-Liebour only ever seem to want to "listen" or "have a debate" just before an election?
Resign now Gutless Brown - you are a disgrace to this country and a waste of space as PM

- Anon Pc, London, UK, 12/11/2009 08:55
Report abuse

A vile lie from a stupendously incompetent and malicious Government.
Only a couple of days ago Immigration officials on the front line stated that they now have no powers to stop undesirables entering this Country.
I will never forgive Labour for the destruction of this Country and will never vote for them again.

- Roger, Devon, 12/11/2009 08:15
Report abuse

Is this prediction of not hitting 70m from the same people who thought Eastern European immigrants would be a trickle, rather than the flood that actually happened. I thought so, and stopping hospital consultants is hardly going to make a difference. Then again a Labour focus group probably found that they tend to vote Tory so they mustn`t be allowed in.
We want a NET REDUCTION in the population, to take into account the insane growth over the last 12 years. Start with those who shouldn`t be here, those with criminal records, etc.

- Nickspurs, London, London, 12/11/2009 08:13
Report abuse

THis PM who cannot spell and write a proper Letter, what does he know about future Birth rates ? He is 12 years too late to stop migrants workers coming here.

- Stan White, leeds, 12/11/2009 08:09
Report abuse

"Mr Brown told the Mail: 'I know people worry about whether immigration undermines their wages and the job prospects of their children'..."
No, we're concerned about huge numbers of people flooding into our country and making our cities look like the Third World.

- Croyboy, Croydon, 12/11/2009 08:04
Report abuse

If your population is of low to medium skill abilities, surely the focus should be on limiting and repatriating those people.They inevitably generate larger volumes of offspring, therefore compounding the problem at a later date.

- Dm, Essex, 12/11/2009 07:43
Report abuse

This coming from a man who cannot even get rid of "The Hook" and his family of spongers.

- No Longer A Believer, London, 12/11/2009 07:39
Report abuse

There must be an election on the way. I will never ever believe a word that labour prints, sings, shouts or mimes. They are the worst lot this country has ever had to deal with. Let's hope their supporters in The North have woken up.

- Frederick, London, 12/11/2009 07:36
Report abuse

Add your comment