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The Brain surgeon has finished on the other boy , your next!!!

- Davey-Buoy, Chertsey, 12/12/2010 13:00
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I now understand that the rioting was a fun day out for the children of privilege, Prince Charles was only being asked to join in personally by various noble offspring, when spotted in his car.

- Mr Pod, Brisbane, 12/12/2010 01:10
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" Another P***K on the Wall" you could say. I thought this was a girl. To spout out a prepared statement and saying he did not know it was The Cenotaph is an insult to those it commemorates and to our intelligence. Not that this stoned out twit would know anything about respect or intelligence. He should be charged with dessecration of a monument, and given the choice of either joining the army or given a custodial sentence. He should also be thrown out of Cambridge as they have failed to teach a history student what The Cenotaph looks like or why The Union flag flys from it. Well done the future looks bright in the hands of idiots like this. His parents must be so so proud.

- Jeff, Sunbury, UK, 11/12/2010 23:33
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Did you know that he writes for the Guardian? But then what else can you expect from a left-wing, England- hating rag that employs the likes of that hypocrite Toynbee.

- Simon, NottmUK, 11/12/2010 16:51
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Not ashamed for what he did

Ashamed he got recognised

"Didn't realise it was the Cenotaph"

Does he take us lot that didn't get the chance to go to University to be as bone stupid as he is?

- rodgray, Berwick, 11/12/2010 15:37
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He should be made to lick the boots of all those who march past the Cenotaph on Remembrance Day.

- Sue, Essex, 11/12/2010 14:43
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My Indian newsagent asked me this morning: "What have you done to the country we came to because we loved and admired it? Why do you allow this to happen?" Why, indeed? "This scept'red isle" is now a septic land...

- Sue, NW4, London, 11/12/2010 14:00
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Is this what a Cambridge education does to the brain?
How did he gain admission if he can't tell that the flag was attached to the Cenotaph? Even a 3 year old would know. And a history student who doesn't know what the Cenotaph is?
Mortified? He should be expelled.

- John, London, 11/12/2010 13:27
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As for the student riots over this threatened rise in tuition fees, excuse me for not showing much sympathy. I really don’t understand why they seem so worked up about this issue. The repayments terms seem mild enough compared to any other kind of commercial loan. The majority of them must have credit cards, and we all know how expensive they are if you lose control of your debts. How many have taken out a loan to buy a car? And you get precious little sympathy from your creditors if you get in over your head either. Yet they probably commit to these liabilities with barely a murmur. Why are student fees considered to be such an outrage? I must be missing something here. As for me I have just had to fork out £5k for repairs to my vehicle which is my only source of income these days. The weather has been terrible lately and I’m suffering from a streaming cold, and I’m 62, with no hope of being able to afford to retire in the foreseeable future, and I am going to find it a struggle to pay my Income Tax, and VAT in the New Year because of this unexpected repair bill. Then I come home from work and have to watch all these students rioting in such a depraved manner – and over what exactly? As for that ‘He’ who I thought was a ‘She’ (He has very shapely legs for a lad) swinging on the Union Jack on the Cenotaph; I read that he comes from a highly privileged background and he is full of sincere regret and remorse for what he did etc., etc.: No doubt we have a celebrity here in the making. It just makes me sigh with the state of country these days. When I was his age I was a soldier. I left school at 15 and have been a wage-earner ever since in common with much of my generation. Old people used to moan and groan at me when I was a kid, saying things like, “You don’t know you’re born you kids today”, and I used to laugh at them. Now I think I’m beginning to understand how they must have felt.

- Higgnoraimus, Birmingham, 11/12/2010 11:17
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I would like to see some of these thugs "give up their lives for freedom". Then maybe we could all walk around London in peace without being intimidated by the great unwashed and rentamob.

The police should use watercanon, and use more brutality.

- michael, London, UK, 11/12/2010 10:11
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It shouldn't matter what he thought he was hanging off of... it wasn't his to be wrecking, whether its the Union Jack or a Walls flag at the sweetie shop. As for the apology, remember, his mum writes the lyrics for his dad's songs, so choice words are readily at hand, though he's likely quite capable on his own. And the shame they voice for his actions is more likely that of a mother and son struggling to stem the flow of vitriol and the longstanding disgrace they are doomed to endure. His dad, always so restrained in the heat of those musical moments, is wise to stay out of this. Charlie is old enough to be stupid or smart on his own accord. And it appears he's made his choice.

- Wayne, Fredericton, Canada, 11/12/2010 01:33
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His statement that he didn't realise he was swinging off the Cenotaph makes sense when you see the little interview he gives a roving BBC reporter. He's clearly off his face. Not only that, he's brandishing the leg off a shop mannequin and slurringly pronouncing that he and his chums have been 'generally trashing things'. Wonder of the police are going to be having a look at that little cinematic gem? A proper Charlie and no mistake...

- Ruth, London, UK, 11/12/2010 00:20
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Indeed protesting is something which we should value; however when a protest becomes a feral mob then issues lose support. I was quite proud over the last month to see people care enough to do something; but you also carry the responsibility of maintaining a protest and not let the agitators turn it into a riot. Its not good enough to say "I got carried away in the heat". You have to be smarter than this otherwise your cause is already lost.

A stupid young man has made a mistake - his bigger mistake was to make his apology an excuse. That image is now seared in many many people's minds - many of whom initially had sympathy for the protest but now will not. The Cenotaph is a powerful symbol and firstly desecrating but then patronising those who hold its meaning dear only adds insult to injury.

There are consequences to actions - and that means more than a PR crafted apology.

- jc, se1, 10/12/2010 23:23
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Indeed Sue, indeed.
Sporting of her to suggest the union. Clearly, she didn`t want to snap me up herself, probably too much scope for heated argument.

- Rowland, Kingston up the Thames, 10/12/2010 22:32
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Sue:

Respect to your Mother's (first) Fiance.

My Grandfather fought in WW2, something which fills me with great pride.

- Belle, London, 10/12/2010 22:11
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Rowland - this sounds like Brief Encounter and all courtesy of Belle! Frightfully considerate of her, what!!

- Sue, NW4, London, 10/12/2010 22:08
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Belle: I would add further that my mother's first fiance lost his life flying with Bomber Command. He was 21 and just one of the 55,00 VOLUNTEERS - yes volunteers - flying with the RAF to protect our freedom. When I see the Cenotaph being desecrated by mindless thugs, I get a little angry...do not lecture to me about freedom, sacrifice or respect for the dead. A visit to Headley Court might be a salutory experience for you - present day sacrifice, you know??

- Sue, NW4, London, 10/12/2010 21:55
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Rowland, ignorance is certainly bliss. If you're not already married to Sue, you should perhaps consider it. Making judgements on my age is as ridiculous as your post, and I won't admit how old I am as I don't feel a person of intelligence would care.

- Belle, London, 10/12/2010 21:55
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Sue:

You didn't read a word of what I wrote, which makes me believe that I am talking to a person with about much sense as a grape.

By the way, The Daily Mail is that way ----------->

- Belle, London, 10/12/2010 21:41
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@ Belle, London,
Great society you`re hoping to grow up into (I`m assuming you`re a young`un). One where protesting goes on, whatever the cause, just to show that the protesters are alive.
Endless stream of chaos and conflict in the streets, buildings attacked, private property wrecked, but hey, shows they`re alive right?

I mentioned that I assume you`re young, that`s because you have no experience of civil conflict, but you`ve been deluded into thinking that it achieves the noble aims of protesters . . . . . wrong!!
Violent disorder in the streets never wins, it gets crushed, rightfully, because the majority of people in the country want it crushed.

No matter how worthwhile or justified the cause, once a brick is thrown, a policeman attacked, a window smashed, the argument is lost.

The recent spate of demonstrations have, as their core, the subject of further education, yet the case is being presented by mindless thugs. . . . doomed to failure

- Rowland, Kingston up the Thames, 10/12/2010 21:35
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Belle: grow a backbone? I've plenty of that, sweetie, and that's why I've replied to your ignorant remark. I don't need you to teach me about the Cenotaph. What's your problem with this country's heritage? If you don't like it, leave!

- Sue, NW4, London, 10/12/2010 21:27
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We dont need no education was the message his father was professing. Actually I think this little so and so clearly needs one quite badly if he doesn't know what the Cenotaph is. Im sure he must be terribly hard up with his Dad being the struggling musician that he is so probably cant afford the additional fees.

- Matt, London, 10/12/2010 21:26
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Please, UK, do not become the type to worship a rectangular cloth like my kind. I fear you are becoming more and more like the USA, and I hope that you guys don't go down that route. We need at least one sane ally.

- American, USA, 10/12/2010 21:24
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Please, UK, do not become the type to worship a rectangular cloth like my kind. I fear you are becoming more and more like the USA, and I hope that you guys don't go down that route. We need at least one sane ally.

- American, USA, 10/12/2010 21:22
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Sue:

I don't need a Cenotaph, a Union Jack or a Poppy to remind me of those who gave up their lives for the freedom to think and live freely. You obviously do, which is why this country has gone down the pan, too many people depending on 'things' to feel something.

Grow a back bone, and wake up.

- Belle, London, 10/12/2010 21:09
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Belle: protesting is one thing; swinging on the Union Flag from Cenotaph is another matter entirely. Are you able to differentiate between the two polarities? Somehow, I doubt it.

- Sue, NW4, London, 10/12/2010 20:41
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People have become robotic in their thoughts, and their way of lives. If it wasn't for people protesting, standing up for their rights, we wouldn't be here today.

Wake up people, you're destined for a fate which is depressing. I for one, am all for people protesting, whatever their cause, because at least that shows that they are alive.

- Belle, London, 10/12/2010 20:19
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Will Cambridge send him down? If not, why not?

- Aslak, Oulu, Finland, 10/12/2010 19:37
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To Mark Harding-- too much moderation is exactly why England is no longer England.

- sam, Manhattan, USA, 10/12/2010 19:21
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- J. Acord, Rugby, ND, 10/12/2010 18:32


What a pathetic comment. He is a vandal and should be punished accordingly... 120 hours community service should do it.

What are you advocating? That we let anyone off from punishment if they say sorry? Get real !

- PDWH, London, 10/12/2010 19:11
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Disgusting repellent little hooligan. He should be charged and punished.

- MiguelM, Old Isleworth, 10/12/2010 18:51
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J. Acord of Rugby.
Learn to spell, man, or did you actually mean 'viscous'?

What an utter idiot....and of course he would be the privileged son of a rock star!
If a genuinely deprived student was indeed protesting, I refuse to believe that this person would use violence or deface monuments.
This protest was a great excuse for some yobbish, destructive "fun".

- Asha Harvilla, London UK, 10/12/2010 18:48
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J. Acord, Rugby

I hear violins playing and presumably something from The Dark Side of the Moon. From your address, I imagine that you were not in London yesterday to see what happened? But don't worry, London can take it!

- Sue, NW4, London, 10/12/2010 18:44
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So am I !!!! It's just another brick in the wall.

- Phil, London, 10/12/2010 18:40
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All these comments are completely cruel & snobbish. He is a 21 year old kid that made a mistake & apologized for it! Forget it. He obviously made a grand attempt at apologizing for his actions. No harm done. I had not realized how snobbish & downright primitive & viscous the people in the UK clearly are until reading these disparaging comments against this misunderstood human being.

- J. Acord, Rugby, ND, 10/12/2010 18:32
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Sad that he couldnt have got that Union Jack wrapped around his neck. Now that would have been an iconic picture!

- Alex, Hillsboro, Missouri, USA, 10/12/2010 18:31
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"...Yesterday's graffiti will wash away unlike his shame which will haunt him for ever..."

No it won't. That apology was just meaningless words and I doubt he cares one bit about what he did. The only thing he's worried about is his parents cutting off his credit card.

- Steve, London, 10/12/2010 18:20
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"I thought it was a girl too, surely he's wearing a skirt with thick tights and he's got his hair in a pony tail?"

- Barbara, London, UK, 10/12/2010 17:14

On other news sites you'll find clearer images and it's definitely a boy.

What looks like a skirt is actually his long coat. The tights are just tight jeans tucked into his boots and the ponytail is actually his scarf.


Despicable behaviour and a weaselling, false apology.

Isn't it about time we started refusing to accept the apologies of idiots like these who think they can do whatever they like and just simper a self-serving "sorry" to get out of trouble?

I hope the Royal British Legion send him a letter telling him where to stick his apology.

Sorry isn't a magic word that makes everything alright and at some point the word will have lost all its meaning thanks to people like this clown using it so spuriously.

- Ricky, London, 10/12/2010 17:55
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...Yesterday's graffiti will wash away unlike his shame which will haunt him for ever...

- Dewi, Brighton, 10/12/2010 17:51
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You people nevver been young , never done something you regretted, for gods sake, all this outrage and knee jerk re-action is just laughable, he is a young guy and has done something he obviuosly deeply regrets, yes he shld be punished but flog him Gresham , u retard !!

- Brian, Wiltshire, 10/12/2010 16:21

With eloquence like that, no one is ever going to confuse a hillbilly like Brian, with an educated man.

- Scotty, London, 10/12/2010 17:47
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'I got caught up in the spirit of the moment. I did not realise that it was the Cenotaph'

Gosh , golly . Oh that's all right ;then you don't have to go to jail. Only don't bank on it . It's either that or a public lynching I've no doubt.

- john, morbihan, 10/12/2010 17:45
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Barbara, I have to say that unfortunately the gender of some of these people will only ever be known by airport security staff that man the naked scanners, cos by god you can't tell otherwise.

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 10/12/2010 17:29
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@Mark Harding

You'll be back here soon enough to get treatment on the NHS if your insurance doesn't cover it in the good ol' USA, even though the current White House incumbent is hell bent on bankrupting the US to provide free health care.

There's only one thing worse than rioting students and thats smug ex-pats gloating at our apparent discomfort.

- SMS2010, London UK, 10/12/2010 17:20
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I thought it was a girl too, surely he's wearing a skirt with thick tights and he's got his hair in a pony tail?

- Barbara, London, UK, 10/12/2010 17:14
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As an expat Brit I have to say all this whining snivelling idiocy and on the other side the draconian mindless consevatism are two of the reason's I left the UK and will probably never come back. MODERATION IN ALL THINGS people and a little compromise. Things just don't get better over there do they.

- Mark Harding, West Rutland, VT, USA, 10/12/2010 17:11
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MMMM - Obviously a gifted and no doubt expensively educated intellectual who brings into question the perceived advantages of being a member of the financial elite.
You don't require a Cambridge education to recognise a war memorial when you see one.
It's extremely sad that he did not recognise or care about the feelings of those whose loved ones made the ultimate sacrifice in order that he had the freedom to commit this sacrilage.
Hopefully he will take the opportunity of reflecting on his actions and even if he doesn't place any value on our history or traditions he will find it in his heart to show some respect for those who do.

- Kandy, Glasgow, Scotland., 10/12/2010 17:08
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He should be charged and jailed as there are enough evidence to convict this scambag.

- jo, lodon uk, 10/12/2010 17:04
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Roger, now this has been clearly identified as a male, please replace the "B" with a "P"

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 10/12/2010 16:59
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If he doesn't know what the Cenotaph looks like, his parents should ask for a refund on his schooling.

- shallotman, Basildon, 10/12/2010 16:59
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This is where the UK is crumbling! Fine he apologised (albeit a fake one written by someone who he paid a lot of money to), but the worst thing ever is his mother making excuses for him!

She needs to wake up and realise her beloved son is a thug and is a disgrace to the country and all who fought/fight for it!

- JH, UK, 10/12/2010 16:52
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I ask you, now does that look like a man, I took this to be a big girl until it was identified. I genuinely thought it was a female "flasher" or a take off for a pole dancer. Whatever it is, it should be given hell. A copy of this photo should be blown up and posted all over Cambridge and it's hometown. The disgusting creature, now let's have him shown on every TV screen, cinema screen and hoarding in the country. Another sign of the times of what this country has sunk to. And eh!, Adam, Harrow, I totally support the Palestinian cause 100% and I am certainly no "bleeding heart liberal, far from it. There would be less trouble in the world if our own and a few more countries supported them.

- M. Clift., Worcester., 10/12/2010 16:50
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Teacher leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall

- Roger, London, 10/12/2010 16:46
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What's this muppet protesting for? He comes from a family with plenty of money. Did he think it is the trendy thing to do?

- Dom, London, United Dustbin of Europe, 10/12/2010 16:45
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Real education to these louts is a game. They are not interested in what the benefits will bring from a good education, they want everything NOW, NOW, NOW.
We're sick and tired of paying taxes to educate these morons. Total waste of space.

- Norman, Derbyshire, 10/12/2010 16:44
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Charlie Gilmour and Otis Ferry. Coming soon on the next series of X Factor !

- Nod, Leytonstoned, 10/12/2010 16:40
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Heat of the moment or not - I do not believe he didn't know what he was doing.

To all students guilty of violence/damage to property: if it had been kept as a peaceful protest, no one would have got hurt nor buildings vandalised, thus adding to the expense for your right to protest. Guess who foots the bill for this? Yes, the taxpayer. Do you not realise everything has a price-tag attached to it? Very little in life is for free and it's about time you pampered little bleaters accepted this. But then, you are of the 'I want it now' generation who think your right is to have anything at others' and/or taxpayers' expense.

If you are so desperate to go to university, take some time to save up first. My daughter is at University but she did not protest; she accepts that costs will always be involved.

It was not the police who started the violence, but you so-called students with your beligerant and antagonistic behaviour.

- Hazelle, London, 10/12/2010 16:35
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So this rich young man, well able to afford higher university fees, can't recognise a war memorial?

- redsquare, london, 10/12/2010 16:27
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You people nevver been young , never done something you regretted, for gods sake, all this outrage and knee jerk re-action is just laughable, he is a young guy and has done something he obviuosly deeply regrets, yes he shld be punished but flog him Gresham , u retard !!

- Brian, Wiltshire, 10/12/2010 16:21
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This kid comes from extreme wealth. His father is worth many millions. Why is he demonstrating against a very minimal rise in tuition ? Money is of no concern for this spoiled brat. He obviously has no brains whatsoever. The tuition increase is nothing to demonstrate over. Education is not free. Funding must come from somewhere. Having students pay something for it makes it worth more. We call it having some skin in the game. If something is free then those who have it will not value it. Tuition in the UK and Europe is nothing compared to the USA. These kids should be on their knees thanking the UK taxpayers for the opportunity of education.

- Leon Williams, Webster, NY USA, 10/12/2010 16:19
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I suggest that this piece of pond-life explains his actions to all those brave troops who have returned from Afghanistan. And then let the Royal Marines have a little chat with him...

- Sue NW4, London, 10/12/2010 16:17
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Considering his dad is a Palestinian supporting bleeding heart liberal it's hardly surprising his son has grown up to be an eejit.

- Adam, Harrow, UK, 10/12/2010 16:10
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Send him to fight talibans in Helmand.

- John, London, 10/12/2010 16:10
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Even as an American I find this to be an utter disgrace. I hope the British populace will be unsatisfied with this "apology" and push for a public trial.

- John, Georgia, US, 10/12/2010 16:05
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It would have been nice just for once to have read the views of this obviously highly educated, rich young man but nothing changes. The young threw out Churchill after the second world war. Then when everything was in an absolute mess they had to call him back. As to all the comments I have read this week in the Standard, no one seems in the least bit interested in the problems facing us, just vulgar abuse. i remember Nye Bevans speech, 'their lower than vermin'. Everyone puts self first. That is why I applaud the Liberals, who have put the country before self interest. They know that everyday we pay 146 millions in interest charges because of the vast debt Labour has left us in. Perhaps we all should try listening to another of Churchill's favourite sayings, better to jaw jaw, rather than war war.

- Alan ., England., 10/12/2010 16:03
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Better no excuse than that one. It just made him look weak and ignorant, but then that is probably what he is.

- Stephen Rothbart, Prague, Czech Republic, 10/12/2010 15:56
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Just another prick in the Mall.

- Gresham, Marbella Spain, 10/12/2010 15:56
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Johnny Drama, I actually called it a very degrogatory female of the night on my mates webpage, so thats at least 2 of us who thought it was a bimbo

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 10/12/2010 15:55
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That photo will follow the idiot for the rest of his life. When he's left his 'educashun' and goes for a job interview he'll soon find out that people won't quite forget and forgive that easily

- Doug, Bucks UK, 10/12/2010 15:45

Job ???? this t*** will not do a days work in his life.

- Steve, London, 10/12/2010 15:55
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I suggest that a suitable punishment for the younger Gilmour would be to force him to listen to the Floyd's "Atom Heart Mother" continuously for three days. That'll sort him out.

- Stevie G, London SW11, 10/12/2010 15:53
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Shine on you crazy diamond

- gaz, n7, 10/12/2010 15:49
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I'm utterly disgusted that so many brave men gave their lives so so many ignorant, bitter and pathetic people should spend their entire lives talking crap on Internet forums.

Get a life people and cheer up - it's what churchill would've wanted don't you know!

- Jason, London, 10/12/2010 15:48
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He'll have to live with the ultimate humiliation...in the photograph he looks like a girl.

- Johnny Drama, Five Towns, 10/12/2010 15:46
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That photo will follow the idiot for the rest of his life. When he's left his 'educashun' and goes for a job interview he'll soon find out that people won't quite forget and forgive that easily

- Doug, Bucks UK, 10/12/2010 15:45
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Really, NO appology is better than a FAKE appology, young man!

- Juma, at work, here, 10/12/2010 15:43
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Are we sure that this is Charlie Gilmour? It looks a lot like Wayne Kerr to me.

- ronnie, what used to be England, 10/12/2010 15:42
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I have commented elsewhere that I thought money spent trying to "educate" the thugs on the streets of London was money wasted. This piece of human scum confirms it.

- R.F.York, Yorks,UK, 10/12/2010 15:42
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What an absolute pillock - I sympathise with the downfall of University education funding, but actions like this will only serve to detract from the argument. A shame a few idiots ruined things for the majority of peaceful protestors. Gives the politicians something to talk about rather than the real issues.

- Rodders, London, 10/12/2010 15:41
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Oh Bill! You just made me smile for the first time this week!

- sue, london, 10/12/2010 15:39
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Come on then Charlie boy, if you are so full of remorse, ring round your mates who were with you and go down there tomorrow and help clean up the appaling mess and distruction you lot caused, NO... I didn't think so, not big enough, but then none of you are....

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 10/12/2010 15:39
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tell that big girls blouse to help clean up that mess she should be sent to holloway discuised as a woman discusting

- jill tucker, london, 10/12/2010 15:37
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These demos will not get the public on your side you are alienating yourselves , and start mentioning the trade unions in the same breath !! I would'nt if I were you .

- Davey-Buoy, Chertsey, 10/12/2010 15:37
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History graduate from Cambridge and doesn't know about the Cenotaph.Like to know exactly whose history he was studying. Isn't his dad against education in general as a form of mind control.

- gazza, London, 10/12/2010 15:37
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The Cambridge University history graduate....

So much money, so obviously well spent.
He did not realize what the monument he was going by was.
An utter disgrace.

- Steve, london, 10/12/2010 15:37
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I'd be more sympathetic if "his" apology was not so obviously written by a professional publicist.

- Kevin T, Beckenham, Kent, 10/12/2010 15:35
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Come on dave, £1,000,000 donation. Why was your son even there? "Didn't need no educashun?" perhaps. "Another brick in the window"?

- Bill, Wapping, 10/12/2010 15:31
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Send this piece of used Andrex out to Afganistan and let him see first hand what he has desecrated, and if you find the other moron who urinated up against a monument send them together. Hopefully ensuring that you don't bring them back in body bags, but alas nobody would probably care either way.

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 10/12/2010 15:27
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tW-AT

- Grim Reaper, Hell, 10/12/2010 15:24
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..forward he cried from the rear and the front rank died...

- Gary, London, 10/12/2010 15:22
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So, difficulty in recognising a red, white and blue cottony thing hanging on a woodeny stick thingy against a big stone thing. . . . . IN WHITEHALL.

Forget the pampered rockstar offspring rubbish, lock him up.
Mr Gilmore, your son has grown into a mindless yob

- Rowland, Kingston up the Thames, 10/12/2010 15:19
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A university education has obviously taught him little

- rodgray, Berwick, 10/12/2010 15:19
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Do we think daddy had better make a big donation to help with the clear-up ?

- Johnny Reggae, south east, 10/12/2010 15:17
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Publicly flog the brute.

- Gresham, Marbella Spain, 10/12/2010 15:13
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