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Why does the media always insist on racialising the issue? Why don't they refer to it as having been 80 per cent British or English indigenous rather than 80 per cent 'white' which is a meaningless statistic.
If the area was flooded by ethnic Polish that would be no less a concern for the locals.
Its a total miscategorisation of native British people.

'The profile of the constituency has changed dramatically since 2001 when it was more than 80 per cent white. The ethnic minority population has since doubled and everything is seen through a prism of immigration.'

- Chris Baker, England, 01/05/2010 16:38
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Oh, dear Sanjay: I DO hope you're not cutting and running!
You wrote "sending back 2nd / 3rd generation immigrants" in inverted commas. I in fact did the same, because I was quoting from Decency's post.
To quote your good self, in the area in which you live "The landlords that own the properties are mostly indian folk". 
Exactly. You prove my point: that's precisely part of the housing problem in London.
Lastly: "putting the BNP in control would be the final nail in the coffin for this country".
I'll take my chances on that, thank you.

- Croyboy, Croydon, UK, 23/04/2010 16:07
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Croyboy, I swear you're Nick Griffin. You don't half make me laugh.

Apart from 'sending back 2nd / 3rd generation immigrants', what other real policies does the BNP have?

On my road here in sunny Hounslow, most of the council houses belong to Irish, Polish, other white and Somalian folk. The landlords that own the properties are mostly indian folk.

Immigration is a problem, I'll give you that. But putting the BNP in control would be the final nail in the coffin for this country.

That's the last I'll say on it - I've got a job to go back to. Have you?

- Sanjay, Hounslow, UK, 23/04/2010 12:20
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@ Croyboy

Point 1: They wouldn't "take" it with them as such, it would be sold on to other foriegn parties, look to the East! There simply isn't enough native cash to take back control.

Point 2: how would our housing problem be solved? you refering to social housing? so all 2nd/3rd generation immigrants live in council houses? I assure you, there are plenty of 2nd/3rd generation Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Bengali's etc etc out there who have made an effort to contribute to our society, they work as professionals, have their own properties, pay there taxes etc etc.

If you're refering to high house prices, I believe gazumping was invented by the white middle class.

- Decency, London, UK, 23/04/2010 11:05
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Ah, Decency, so you're an accountant: that speaks volumes. Maybe, just maybe, there are more important issues than the bottom line.
You say: "Example is, a powerful region of the Middle East owns many parts of prime real estate in central London, hardly small change is it?"
Indeed it isn't, but the reason that it's "hardly small change" is a matter of supply and demand, and the price of said prime real estate has been pushed up by allowing any foreigner to buy it.
Tell me:
1/ Where would they take this real estate if they left?
2/ Wouldn't you agree that "if all 3rd/2nd generation immigrants were asked to leave" our housing "problem" would be solved?

- Croyboy, Croydon, UK, 23/04/2010 09:30
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LF and Decency, every year up to 1983 this newspaper would publish the crime figures issued by the Metroploitan Police. The figures were so bad that the government then supressed them and they have never been published since (fancy that). Some ethnic group crime rates are over 12 times higher (official government statistics) then the indigenous population and showed a clear racist intent, the PC mob of the time decided to surpress the figures as they were an idictment against the multi racial society. The truth always hurts.
As a former Brixton resident 1954-1974, all my family had been mugged before the 1960's were out, so like most others we left. (fancy that). Labour tory and liberal polititians are terrifed of the truth on this subject so they keep the population well and truly in the "Dark"

- john, Southwark, london, 22/04/2010 22:59
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@ Croyboy

The birthright you speak off is???

I'm an accountant, if all 3rd/2nd generation immigrants were asked to leave, thus taking their assets with them, trust me, the UK will be in deeper poo than it is now beacause it doesn't amount to a "handfull of coins"

Example is, a powerful region of the Middle East owns many parts of prime real estate in central London, hardly small change is it?

- Decency, London, UK, 22/04/2010 17:26
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I'm never quite sure what people mean when they keep going on about racism, it's like the 21st century version of the witch hunt and yet another form of mind control in my opinion. Very simply, I am against any form of violance or control, no matter the race or color of a persons skin, and I detest bullies most of all. But what I see is an increase in this going on around the world in spite of what our main stream party politicians tell us, am I the only one that recognises this?
Having said this, the BNP do indeed have at least 3 policies that I find attracive.
1. Restrict new imigration and ship home illegals and criminals.
2. All troops in Afganistan to come home home now.
3. Withdraw from the EUSSR superstate and go back to just being a trading parner with the EEC. (which is all it should be, a trade partnership)
None of the big 3 have any of these policies so I have to ask myself....Qui bono? Or more precisely, who's interests are they realy looking after, certainly not Britains.

- Josh, Erith Kent, 22/04/2010 17:24
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Hi, Sanjay.
You write "Gandhi wanted the British out of India because they were suppressing the indians and ruling them".
Two points:
1/ True, but their treatment of the natives couldn't have been THAT bad, seeing so many of them want to live here.
2/ In that the people of India had no choice about the Brits occupying the sub-continent, we face a similar situation as we, the English, have had no choice regarding the flood of aliens that is occupying OUR country.
You mention "long settled immigrants" here who "have fed big money into the system".
However, some of us don't want to sell out our birthright for a handful of coins.
Can you understand that?

- Croyboy, Croydon, UK, 22/04/2010 17:01
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@ Sanjay and Reginald

Bravo, "claps"

I wanted to say exactly the same things as you both but I don't possess the eloquence you two seem to have in abundance.

There is still hope for us.

- Decency, London, UK, 22/04/2010 14:57
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John, Southwark, london, here here! lets get rid of all non British people and there won't be any crime. Just look at the "Angel Delight" killer with his vile companion. Let's get rid of them.... oh, didn't realise, you can't. they are WHITE.

- LF, London, 22/04/2010 13:38
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@Charlotte - the British way of life?

Polite - stiff upper lip, no complaining? got ripped off a lot with substandard services from likes of BT, BG, BA etc etc

Fair - the working classes were allways denied a decent education and decent jobs, these allways went to the ruling upper classes and the upwardly mobile middle classes.

Safe - London was never a Singapore or Tokyo when it comes to low crime levels.

So, given a choice, do I want to talk to an immigrant who can tell me about a different culture, a different way of life, eating different foods, proclaiming the importance of the family unit and someone I can learn from?

Or do I want to speak with a native who only wants to talk about house prices, that "amazing" holiday they had, what cosmetic procedure celebrity Z had or "u never gissed 'ow much i drinked last nite?"

Answer is simple, multi culteral London for me, all day, every day.

- Decency, London, UK, 22/04/2010 12:53
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Croyboy, with people like you... Mr Griffin's dream will slowly and sadly become a reality.

However, just for the record, Gandhi wanted the British out of India because they were suppressing the indians and ruling them... dare I say it causing attrocities too - Jallianwala Bagh... look it up.

The vast majority of the long settled 'immigrants' I know here have fed big money into the system and worked their private parts off. If Griffin's dream was sadly to become a reality and the 'non whites' left, what would be left in this once 'Great' Britain? It would become like a poor third world country if all the successful businesses and money was pulled out.

As it stands, constantly threatening and waving the BNP banner, the hard working and successful folk who can afford to emigrate will do so... leaving behind the scroungers and less well off who simply would not have the skills or money to emigrate.

Think about it...

- Sanjay, Hounslow, UK, 22/04/2010 12:49
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I'm sorry if I assumed but your surname "Bildenberg" is not an indigenous name, just ask Mr Griffin.

Your points are confusing:

Hardened criminals - where did you get this from and how many are you talking about?

native Americans and Australian's ie the victims of genocide?

- Ben, London, 22/04/2010 12:24
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The position is

the BNP attract people who believe that they are of a certain ethnic group,ie whites

what troubles them is that people of the other group can succeed and they feel powerless in stopping members of that other group succeeding.

Rather than go out, work hard, educate themselves and their families to succeed through hard work and endeavour they resort to blaming those with a more successful attitude.

It becomes difficult for them to stomach that members of the other group can be more successful and achieve more.

The paradox is that if the country was a wholly white country, those same people would still fail and be at the bottom of the pile.

The problem is the issue of attitude, they should adopt the attitude of a winner not a loser.

This is difficult to digest but true, take some responsibility for yourselves and don't just blame others.

Learn a trade, go to University, become a professional a businessman, but don't just sit on your backside, don't fight for handouts.

- Reginald, London, 22/04/2010 11:09
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If the BNP did win what would that say about the area.

Would any right minded person want to live there, would you?

- Harry, London, 22/04/2010 10:51
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good on ya Nick

- tonana, uk, 22/04/2010 10:36
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It great that we can integrate foreigners and their descendants, like you or your husband, so quickly and give them a voice in our society. Strange that you don't want to extend that privilege to others.

Ben, you are quite wrong in your assumption. I embraced the notion of multiculturalism myself until recent times. My family includes more than one race scattered across all 5 continents and I used to wonder how the Daily Mail, for example, got away with what they used to print. FOr someone like myself to completely change my view on immigration, I believe, says it all. It is a question of numbers, not colours, and, equally importantly in my view, the numbers of hardened criminals who have been let into the UK. Also, I rather feel that the people who protest most vociferously that we should tolerate those who are changing British society out of all recognition are the very ones who would be sympathetic to say, the indigenous peoples of Australia or North America retaining their heritage. Why then can't they see that the indigenous people of this country - and those of us who appreciate the British way of life (polite, fair, safe, etc) continue with that, just for the sake of, what? A larger variety of restaurants? It is nothing short of insanity.

- Charlotte Bildenberg, Kensington, London, England, 22/04/2010 10:03
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Have you ever heard of the word CRIME.

Decency ????

- john, Southwark, london, 22/04/2010 00:33
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Hi, Decency! You ask "Just what is it that makes you fear/despise when an area becomes less white?"
Wrong question, really, as it's nothing to do with either fearing or despising.
It's just that this is England, not Africa or Pakistan. I'm English. This is my country, and just as Gandhi wanted the British out of HIS country, I want the aliens out of MINE.
...Apart from anything else, we're already too crowded, and don't need to increase our population.

- Croyboy, Croydon, UK, 21/04/2010 22:40
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Decency, London, UK: I don't fear areas that are lees white, i have issues when areas are ethnically cleansed for future labour votes. Their is nothing wrong with immigration, if done properly with proper criteria in place such as education, work skills, background checks and so on. Taking in mass numbers from poverty stricten countries and burdened local councils is not the answer. NO ONE voting for mass immigration so dont be suprised when the people of Great Britian oppose it.

- Dirk Diggler, Soho, London, 21/04/2010 19:35
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“I have asked this question many, many times on this website when the subject of immigration comes up.
Just what is it that makes you fear/despise when an area becomes less white?
Decency, London, UK”

Decency, I think that you may have missed the point about Barking & Dagenham. The issue there is the saturation housing at public expense of Africans (black) and Eastern Europeans (not black).

By contrast Ilford South is very multicultural and the white British population are generally quite happy to live in the Borough. They do not however venture to Barking very often.

The BNP can do nothing about it but is enjoying the celebrity of keeping it in the public domain during the election campaign.

- BJ, East London, 21/04/2010 18:27
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"About time. I am checking out all the web sites for property for sale in Dagenham.

- Right on, Swindon, Wilts, 21/04/2010 16:35"

Coming from Swindon, you wouldn't be able to afford it.

- Ben, London, 21/04/2010 17:33
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@ - Adam, Harrow, UK, 21/04/2010 11:50

Living in Harrow I would have thought that you would have seen this before TODAY.

You should pay attention to what is going on not live in a timewarp. Do you know which year it is?

- Ben, London, 21/04/2010 17:26
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I have asked this question many, many times on this website when the subject of immigration comes up.

Just what is it that makes you fear/despise when an area becomes less white?

Croyboy? Sylvie? Dirk Diggler?

- Decency, London, UK, 21/04/2010 17:14
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During my life to date, the only place I have experienced racial abuse on more than one occassion and felt threatened due to my colour... is in Dagenham. This is going back many many years when there was hardly a coloured person in this area anyway! I know one family who were unfortunate to live in Dagenham back then. They had regular abuse being the only 'asian' family on the road. Had their windows smashed... cars damaged etc. All of which leads me to beleive Mr Clegg is talking nonsense. Racism/Intolerance is deeply rooted in these areas and always has been.

- Sanjay, Hounslow, UK, 21/04/2010 17:01
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"English people don't go abroad and bleed other countries dry of their social housing stocks and benefits, nor do our teenagers run amok in armed gangs terrorizing previously tranquil neighbourhoods."

Charlotte Bildenberg, Kensington, London, England

Of course we don't. We confine all those things to our own country don't we!

Thousands of "indigenous" Britons leeching off the state while their kids run riot bullying helpless people into committing suicide!

We only export drunken, binge-drinking idiots who terrorise holiday resorts across Europe! And ex-pats who can still bleed the country dry for fuel allowances and other benefits!

We should be so proud!

- Dan, Essex, 21/04/2010 16:49
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@ - Charlotte "Bildenberg"

It great that we can integrate foreigners and their descendants, like you or your husband, so quickly and give them a voice in our society.

Strange that you don't want to extend that privilege to others.

- Ben, London, 21/04/2010 16:47
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About time. I am checking out all the web sites for property for sale in Dagenham.

- Right on, Swindon, Wilts, 21/04/2010 16:35
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CliffJ, Bromley, writes: "Diversity and equality are the two pillars of a civilized society..."
That is, of course, your opinion. But as this is supposed to be a democracy, don't you think WE - the indigenous people - ought to be asked for OUR view by our so-called "representatives", before they change our country out of all recognition?

- Croyboy, Croydon, UK, 21/04/2010 16:17
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English people don't go abroad and bleed other countries dry of their social housing stocks and benefits, nor do our teenagers run amok in armed gangs terrorizing previously tranquil neighbourhoods. We only go abroad if we can support ourselves - working or in retirement. Why the hell do foreigners think they have carte blanche to come and leach off our society?

- Charlotte Bildenberg, Kensington, London, England, 21/04/2010 16:13
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"English" people have this false sense of entitlement and believe they should be given something for nothing. No matter where you come from nothing is handed to you for free and no one is entitled to something merely because they were born here or even having just arrived. Everyone, through their own hardwork should strive to better themselves educationally and socio-economically and not continuosly blame immigrants for all their woes and problems.Yes, there has been mass immigration in the past decade, but they have been the same hue as the so-called "indegenous" brits. And not to forget there are millions of british immigrants in other countries round the world benefitting of the locales one way or the other.Immigration is a 2 way thing.Lets look at the bigger picture here!!!

- Black Knight, London, 21/04/2010 15:55
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There is nothing wrong with British jobs for British people first, housing for British people first and so on. If people from other European countries need welfare support, their home nation should be supplying it, not us, and if people from other nations can not find work here they must return home. At most we should supply air fare home, not housing and support for 12 etc. We are not the solution to the worlds problems, but we must be the solution to our own. The BNP are simply ensuring these things, and for that, they are not racist, its common sense that has not been infected by liberalism and political correctness. These things(liberism and political correctness) put white needs last and minority needs first; quite simply it is backwards thinking and Labour has brtainwashed our society into thinking this is right, it is not. Supposedly 90% of Britain is still white, but I don't see it or beleive it, just look around all the major cities across the UK and you will see the extent of Labours immigration for votes program.

- Dirk Diggler, Soho, London, 21/04/2010 15:45
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i hope the bnp get listed as i live in spain now and idont winter fuel all or any outhers if you stop the scroungers comming in perhaps britain will be better for all i vote B.N.P and so should you

- robert severn, cortes de baza, 21/04/2010 15:35
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It doesn't take a historian to know that Britain's wealth and position in the World was built largely on the exploitation of 'foreigners' both through the imperial appropriation of land and resources and the slave trade.

Since then immigrants have largely plugged a gap in the labour market to the benefit of British industries and the UK economy. Without this influx of cheap labour (some might say this has been further exploitation) all 'native' British would be worse off. This is an economic fact.

What is native anyway? How far back to you want to go? Even the name England is derived from the Angles, Germanic settlers. There are German immigrants in this country too, would Griffin kick them out as well? White does not equal British. There are generations of families who settled from the Caribbean, from Africa and Asia who have made a solid contribution to society, all of whom would ultimately be forced out if Griffin and his cohorts had any real power. I wonder whether the BNP rank and file would be so eager to remove the pretty Lithuanian barmaid at the local who's been here for a few months?

It's ignorant and myopic to blame the people around you who are different for what you perceive to be social ills. Take a critical look at the system, don't project your angst on to someone because of their skin or language. Scapegoating is not a positive form of political expression.

The BNP's policies are baseless. A vote for them is a vote for ignorance and racism. Keep them out!

- Terry, London, 21/04/2010 15:14
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Labour has betrayed the people in Barking but Griffin, Barnbrook and their BNP cronies are slime trying to profit off problems in the area.

Last year 6 BNP councillors took £10,000 pay days despite attending less than 50% of council meetings and the BNP in general only took 30 housing cases from the public. Labour are bad, but they still took 350+ cases from the public and Labour council leader Liam Smith took 106 cases himself.

Why should we vote in people who only care about the money and not about us. While the MP expenses scandal is bad, for the BNP to claim they are clean is bare faced cheek. Vote someone else, but not these BNP idiots.

- Jonathan, Barking, 21/04/2010 15:01
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I would question your contention that a 16.5% swing is required for the BNP to win Barking. That is only true as compared with the 2005 General Election figures. However the last time the whole Barking electorate voted was 2008 in the Mayoral and GLA election. The wards comprising the Barking Parliamentary constituency delivered the following vote shares; Labour 33.9% BNP 26.4% Conservative 17.1% Lib Dem 5% Green 3% UKIP 2.6% Others (combined)12% The turnout was only slightly down on 2005 but it shows a significant shift from Labour to the BNP, also maintaining their vote share from the 2006 Council elections where they won nine of the seats from Barking (twelve overall in the whole borough). The Conservatives achieved 17% in 2005 and remained static in 2008 on 17%. The BNP has manifestly overtaken them to be the main challenger and Margaret Hodge has herself publicly acknowledged it is "a two horse race" between her and Griffin. It may take as lttle as a 3.8% swing to dislodge Mrs Hodge, based on the 2008 figures and clearly Labour are making that assumption, perhaps fuelled by their own canvassing returns.

- David Moon, East Sussex, 21/04/2010 14:17
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I went to Ilford the other day, and I didn't recognise it. I think I saw about 2 white people. All the shops are being baught up by Asian's selling goods that would only interest them. I used to work there in the sixties, and never did I imagine this could happen there. But I guess it is all spreading outwards from the East End. So something has to be done about this before riots break out on our streets. How can anyone say that multiculturalism has improved these areas? We are voting BNP because we don't want our area to end up like this. That is why there has been white flight in all these areas. It's not rocket science is it.

- Sylvie, Epping Essex, 21/04/2010 13:49
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dont just stop at diversity, don't go to barking if you want to meet nice people, have intelligent conversation, feel good about britain, be healthy, be rational...

infact are there any reasons for going to barking?

- daveb, london, 21/04/2010 13:43
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Nick Griffin has been claiming that he has support from black people who have been in this country a long time, and are fed up with new immigrants getting priority etc. It was not that many years ago that he was captured on film speaking to Americans including the former Ku Klux Klan leader, David Duke, saying that you would never get elected if you reveal your true policies, but at some point in the future, he would be able to rid the UK of all non-white people "every last one". THe so-called "more moderate" policy of the BNP is what this is all about. This leopard has not changed its spots.

I agree that Labour has betrayed working class people, but not all working class people are white. We need representation for all of us, and the BNP clearly ain't it. We need more social housing, and changing the priorites won't help. Most of the places the council built in the past have been sold off in any case, and the landlords are private, so immigrants getting all the council housing is an illusion.

By hiding their true policies, by saying what they needs to say in order to get elected, Griffin and the BNP are proving that they are not merely despicable neo-nazis, but that their leader is just as slimy a politician as the others he decries.

I went through the town centre on Monday, and an area normally throbbing with people was like the Marie Celeste save for a number of BNP leafletters. On the way back, the BNP had gone, and the people were back. I know what I prefer.

- Another Dave, Barking UK, 21/04/2010 13:25
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The country is still the land of opportunity.

If you are a white immigrant, then your children will have boundless opportunities in this society to integrate and you may find they are join groups like the BNP in years to come.

However if you are coloured, forget it, even if you have lived here for 200 years.

You can try and integrate but "things" will stop you, but you will be blamed for not trying and for being different.

- Graham, London, 21/04/2010 13:04
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The BNP would not be able to bring in a “sons and daughters” policy for housing and schools. In the 1990s, Tower Hamlets' so-called Liberals tried this - and got stopped by the Commission for Racial Equality.

- Arfur Towcrate, Staffycher, 21/04/2010 12:58
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I understand, due to the extraordinary demographic changes in London, a large percentage of your audience are not British which explains your bias report.
Does it ever occur to you why there is large BNP support in Barking and other areas of Essex. Maybe because they are the people, and the dissendents of the people who have left the East End of London due to its 'diversity' and 'enrichment'.

- Will, Bristol, 21/04/2010 12:39
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I understand, due to the extraordinary demographic changes in London, a large percentage of your audience are not British which explains your bias report.
Does it ever occur to you why there is large BNP support in Barking and other areas of Essex. Maybe because they are the people, and the dissendents of the people who have left the East End of London due to its 'diversity' and 'enrichment'.

- Will, Bristol, 21/04/2010 12:36
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I think the problem here is that indigenous people think its a right to get the best jobs and are not prepared to do some jobs. They prefer to have the so called white collar jobs despite the fact that most do not complete education and are not qualified to have these jobs.People in dagenham should be encouraged to go to school and get an education and not drop out at the age of 16 from school.Most do not go to higher education. I live in Barking and Dagenham and i am fed up of the row over here that foreigners have taken all the houses. I have worked hard and bought my own property and have not waited for the state to come and house me. If indigenous people have taken education seriously, they will have better jobs and will be able to get on the property ladder instead of waiting on a queue waiting for state housing. There are lots of houses for sale in this area but i dont know whey people are so carried away thinking its the states responsibility to house them. Get of your lazy backs and get a job and buy your own houses and stop depending on state benefits.

- Dave, Dagenham, 21/04/2010 12:34
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I think the problem here is that indigenous people think its a right to get the best jobs and are not prepared to do some jobs. They prefer to have the so called white collar jobs despite the fact that most do not complete education and are not qualified to have these jobs. British people should be encouraged to go to school and get an education and not drop out at the age of 16 from school. Most do not go to higher education and they think they will get the jobs in the city just because they are indiginous. I live in Barking and Dagenham and i am fed up of the row over here that foreigners have taken all the houses. I have worked hard and bought my own property and have not waited for the state to come and house me. If indigenous peole have taken education seriously, they will have better jobs and will be able to get on the property ladder instead of waiting on a queue waiting for state housing. There are lots of houses for sale in this area but i dont know why people are so carried away thinking its the states responsibility to house them. Get of your lazy backs and get a job and buy your own houses and stop depending on state benefits.

- Dave Maliaki, Dagenham, 21/04/2010 12:30
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Cliff, "diversity is a pillar of cililized society" !!, Who you trying to kid, keep burying your head in the sand

- Dal, Bromley, 21/04/2010 12:27
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Nick speaks for 90% of the British people , thats about 10% of the population after Labours master plan

- Peter Woods, Romford, 21/04/2010 12:26
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Wish I could vote for Griffin but I live in Southwark, what luck the BNP are standing here too.

- john, Southwark, london, 21/04/2010 12:24
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Well, if all the right wing meat heads want to rot....sorry, live together, fine by me.

- Decency, London, UK, 21/04/2010 12:20
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Diversity and equality are the two pillars of a civilized society, and I cannot believe that this awful, racist and ignorant man is given any coverage in the modern press at all. I can't wait until the electorate kick him out into the long grass, well away from decent people, where he can chew over his vile views for the rest of his sorry days.

- CliffJ, Bromley, 21/04/2010 12:12
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I think theyd make it an unattractive place for anyone to live

- Rob Smith, St Albans, 21/04/2010 12:09
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It is time we had someone with the bottle to stand up for the British people.
The Blair government opened the doors to immigrants to create a multi-cultural society but now this country is overrun with them.
English is the minority language in about 1,500 schools in the country and up to 27 different languages spoke in some of them. No wonder the kids don't have a proper education.
BNP's policy of British jobs for British people and social housing for the British people is right. Why should foreigners be allowed into this country and jump the housing queue just because they have got kids?
Don't British peoples rights and needs come into the equation? Apparently not.
Labour have been in power since 1997 with pundits saying Gordon Brown was a marvellous chancellor. Oh, really? Any idiot could borrow the shortfall if the books didn't balance.
Let's have some new blood in parliament and get to grips with immigration, unemployment and all the other problems that comes with the territory.
Just for the record I have voted Tory since 1965 but never again.

- Steve, Bexhill-on-Sea, 21/04/2010 12:09
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Driving through Harlesden and Neasden today I wondered if I had been timewarped into a Middle Eastern or African city. These areas have changed beyond all recognition without anyone agreeing to it. Both these areas were tatty and run down years ago. Now they are even worse.

- Adam, Harrow, UK, 21/04/2010 11:50
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