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- he likes clegg, clegg, 19/12/2011 00:25
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Praise God! There is a particular word used by Mr Cameron which I must highlight "revival".

A revival is talked about in christian circles at times, revival is an invasion of God by His Holy Spirit into the hearts of men. Basically an awareness that God is a saving God. Saving from sin and depravity and moral decline, I would agree, that sounds like exactly what we need again.

There have been many famous revivals in Britain and Ireland, notably the Great Welsh Revival, the revival on the isles of Lewis and the Ulster revival of 1859. It is a fact, that following these great times of spiritual awakening, crime rates have plummeted, social care and understanding became popular and community spirit was at its height. The generations alive today have not seen such a spiritual awakening, this would explain much and confirms what Mr Cameron has said.

I have been praying for revival for nearlY 2 years now and I will continue in that till God sends it.

Many rulers and politicians listened to Jesus teach and some believed, but many didn't because they would rather do the wrong things like steal from the taxes, this is what the Lord Jesus Christ said by way of a challenge to them, "I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness." John 12:46. When Jesus abides in men, they do not want to be deceitful. It would be amazing if our politicians and our country held those values because they have chosen to believe on Jesus.
God bless.

- Charlie, Newtownards, 17/12/2011 23:51
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Cameron is right.

Despite the many failings of almost all Christian denomination churches, the basic values of charity, hope, faith and compassion are still a mark of this great country.

Being a Christian does not mean looking down on other faiths. It means standing up for the lessons and examples set by the great Jesus Christ, without whom we would still be living in total darkness as far as human rights are concerned.


Nice to see a young father and husband talking about Christian ideals.

Well done, prime Minister. I salute you.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

- Michaella, London, 17/12/2011 19:37
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"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24.

Christian Values? Traditional Islamic or Buddist values? I do not mean Shariah law, but traditional values of friendship, hospitality and brotherhood.

- Rabigyin, Scotland, 17/12/2011 19:22
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i remember seeing on the news thatcher in church. it was around the time she shut down the mines and litterally destroyd whole communities up and down the country. another great tory christian!!! i'm not religious in any way, but i'm far more christian than any tory. i actually believe in looking after the less fortunate, unlike tory christians that believe in exploiting the less fortunate. where was it jesus made a speech about outlawing any chance of the less fortunate employees from fighting for better wages and conditions. where did he say to shut down industries, cause mass unemployment, destroy communities and import everything? was it in the same speech he gave about taxing the masses so the 10% that own 90% of the wealth should be left alone? i'm afriad they may have missed the crux of what jesus was preaching some what...

- tom, london, 17/12/2011 18:31
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where's my comment gone this time? come off it moderator. if you only put up the comments you agree with it won't make for much of a debate will it? what was wrong with the last comment? apart from you disagree with it.

- tom, london, 17/12/2011 17:37
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A vile eton toff hypocrite who has caused as much harm to the poor as his old fascist friend Thatcher

- DEE, west coast, 17/12/2011 17:33
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What is he talking about. He douse not have christian values he has bankers values.

- Louis Statham, Salisbury Wiltshire, 17/12/2011 16:46
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The definition of the impossible.A Christian Tory.

- bazza, London, 17/12/2011 16:40
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I do not believe that we can return to Christian values. Today we are driven by greed. Money to satisfy our material wants is king. Whether we are looking at rioters, bankers or politicians, money and material things are the driving force. In an era when the internet and Facebook rule our lives, this state of affairs will not change. The likelihood is that we will also become more selfish and less likely to help others, as the economic cake get smaller and smaller.

How can it be “Christian” for politicians to cosy up to dictators who abuse and murder their people? Politicians continue to do this, and to use national security as their excuse for so doing. This will not change.

Yes Christian values would make us and the world a better place, but it is a utopian dream.

- Franklin, Thornton Heath, 17/12/2011 16:38
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christian values, is he for real? d'you mean the values that was for a fairer society? where we should look after the poor and the week and the ill. did i miss something or was jesus actually saying that only 10% of the population should own 90% of the countries wealth? did jesus really mean shut down hospitals to save the wealthiest from paying too much? at what point did he preach cutting our vital emergency services to pieces to save money? when did he say to take away any chance of hard working people from defending themselves and their wages and then exploit them as much as possible? i'm not religious, but i am christian in my beliefs. and not because i'm scared of what will happen to me when i die, but because looking after the less fortunate is the right thing to do. i remember thatcher going to church. that was around the same time she shut down the pits and decimated entire communities up and down the country. is this the kind of christian values we should go for? i think the tories have slightly misread the message jesus was trying to get accross. there's not a single christian among them, no matter how often they prey or go to church!!!!

- tom, london, 17/12/2011 15:30
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I fully understand Cameron’s yearning for bygone days when things were different, and people on the whole behaved differently. I for one can remember when life was more straightforward, people less selfish, the streets cleaner, we were not so overtly materialistic, and I did not have to fight my way through a scrum every time I try to use public transport.

Leaving aside for the moment whether a return to Christian values would cure all today’s ails, the question is, can we return to Christian values?

It is important to note that the values I am referring to are common to all religion in their pure form, though more clearly articulated in the Christian religion.

I do not believe that we can return to Christian values. Today we are driven by greed. Money to satisfy our material wants is king. Whether we are looking at rioters, bankers or politicians, money and material things are the driving forces. In an era when the internet and Facebook rule our lives, this state of affairs will not change. We will also become less “Christian” as the economic cake get smaller and smaller. Also, how can it be “Christian” for politicians to cosy up to dictators who abuse and murder their people? Politicians continue to do this, and to use national security as their excuse for so doing. This will not change.

Yes Christian values would make us and the world a better place, but it is a utopian dream.

- Franklin, Thornton Heath, 17/12/2011 14:33
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Since when was robbing the poor to feed the rich a Christian value?

- John, London, 17/12/2011 11:53
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John Chapter 3 Verse 16
Because God loved the people of the world, He gave His one and only Son so that whoever believes in Him shall not die eternally, but have God's gift of eternal life instead.

- June Bamford, erith england, 17/12/2011 11:40
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Pity Dave and Boris didn't think of traditional christian values when they were in the bullingdon club. Do as i say not do as i do.

- paul miller, stoke, 17/12/2011 10:41
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dave london: he's expecting it only to apply to joe public. That is the whole point of religion.

- Sean, Brussels, Belgium, 17/12/2011 10:31
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Food on you Dave.Most Politicians are ashames or afraid to say it. Were we better off before Christianity was important to the country or now? Back then you did not have to lock your home to walk into the village, you were not afraid your children would be molested and we left our keys in the car when we went into a shop. He didn't say all to be Christians but the Values it represents, love, forgiveness, Charity, we should adhere to. It was a safer country when God was in our Culture. You cannot deny that . Many are too young to remeber this but I remember it .

- ruckus, Over here, 17/12/2011 10:29
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Food on you Dave.Most Politicians are ashames or afraid to say it. Were we better off before Christianity was important to the country or now? Back then you did not have to lock your home to walk into the village, you were not afraid your children would be molested and we left our keys in the car when we went into a shop. He didn't say all to be Christians but the Values it represents, love, forgiveness, Charity, we should adhere to. It was a safer country when God was in our Culture. You cannot deny that . Many are too young to remeber this but I remember it .

- ruckus, Over here, 17/12/2011 10:27
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I am reassured when I read the comments. Boy this is ludicrous out of touch BS. The problem with "Christian values" is that they are totally undefined, and range from the most admirable to the most appalling. It's a magic phrase which cloaks all evil and extinguishes all discussion. There are values we need to rediscover and others we need to reinvent. Covering it with atavistic religious nonsense might win you votes, but it advances the moral state of society not one iota. People need to discover morality within, not listen once a week from the pulpit. Fortunately they are discovering it. Occupy is a moral movement, gay rights are a moral movement, environmentalism is a moral movement; the Tory Party is not.

- Sean, Brussels, Belgium, 17/12/2011 10:16
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Does this apply to our MPs who are demanding their old expenses system returned to them so they can once again steal from the British public,or is Cameron expecting morals to apply only to Joe public.In these hard times all expenses should be stopped but politicians expect the gravy train they ride on to continue as usual.

- dave, london, 17/12/2011 10:15
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Oh, the irony!
Cameron, along with the rest of the hot-air artists and Britain-haters of the Lib/Lab/Con Party, has been running down our (especially the English) society, identity, and "traditional" values for the last 50 years, at the same time as flooding our country with the world and his brother. ...And now he's somehow changing his mind?
Yeah, right!

- Whitgifter, Croydon, UK, 17/12/2011 10:09
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It's a miracle! I take it all back, everything bad I said against religion! I have seen the light!
Why?
Because Cameron is turning into Tony Blair before our very eyes!
What's the matter, can't you see it?
It's a miracle, I tell you, a miracle!
Hallelujah!

- ID, South Coast, UK, 17/12/2011 09:11
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Whether one is a 'believer' or not, a Christian or of another Faith, or of no faith at all, I cannot see that is wrong with 'Christian values' as expressed in the Holy Bible and as exemplified in the Ten Commandments.

I just wish I could always live in accordance with said values!

- David Davies, London, a Region of the European Soviet Union, 17/12/2011 09:04
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Too Late Mr Cameron , this country is finished and morally bankrupt.

- Mr S.Port, London, 16/12/2011 23:59
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Well said, Mr Cameron.

It is Christianity which underpins the system of government and the values which enable us to call our nation civilised. We have been systematically destroying our Christian heritage of many centuries, and are in grave danger of losing all in our way of life that we value and cherish.

It is Christianity which tells us that we are created by an all-powerful and loving God, each and every one of us made in His image and therefore of immeasurable value, designed to live in accordance with the basic principles He has woven into the very fibre of the universe: truth, love and respect for God and for each other.

Without this basic Christian foundation, the whole fabric of our society will, and is already starting to, disintegrate before our very eyes.

Christianity is not just one of many faiths. It is part of the core identity of this nation and is the religion of the vast majority of people in this country. Great Britain IS a Christian country.

- Mary Douglas, Salisbury, UK, 16/12/2011 23:12
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The first thing he must do is repeal the abortion act and stop the murder of unborn babies. While state sanctioned mass murder carries on in this country it loses all right to talk about morals.

- Jane, London, 16/12/2011 22:58
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So Cameron believes in that nonsense, says it all really.

- Chris Bovey, Totnes, UK, 16/12/2011 22:43
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Maybe you and your friends should stop worshipping money before preaching about Christian values

- Bleeding Heart Liberal, London, 16/12/2011 22:17
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Abdul Abulbul Amir, mate, all he's saying is that as a historically Christian society, this is where we get our moral baseline from. You are so quick to take offence. If I lived in Turkey and felt there was a moral decline and blamed it on a decline in Islamic values, I bet you wouldn't get the local minority Christian/Jewish population taking offence. Get a grip.

- lizzie, London UK, 16/12/2011 21:26
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Locally, a convicted female rioter, burglar and thief was sentenced to 10 months in prison. It has just been announced on the news that she has been released after serving just 5 weeks. Now, Master Cameron, that is one sure fire reason for the "slow motion moral collapse". You said, before the election, that you were going to do something about law and order which many would argue is at the heart of the moral collapse, you have done nothing except make this type of obscenity worse. When there are no effective sanctions against those who break the legal, moral or ethical laws of society, is it any wonder that society itself collapses into a state of anarchy, lawlessness and disregard for ones fellow man. You can do something about it, you won't though because your type are one of the causes of the problem and being a politician, you revel in it. A moral, law abiding, cohesive and strong society is anathema to a British Government and your words are just so much rhetoric and meaningless drivel. Let's wait for the next election and see if your words have been carried through with related policies and actions. We are not taken in.

- M. Clift., Worcester., 16/12/2011 21:04
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Christ! This is really gonna piss off the secular fascists! Big time.

- Steve, Brentford, 16/12/2011 20:49
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I don't want Britain to be a Christian or any other religious flavour country. We are a secular country, or should be, where all religions are tolerated yet no religion is above the democratic law and no one religion has any special favour or exceptions.

Cameron is very stupid to say this in a Christian country. We have a strong Christian heritage but many other heritages contribute to making us what we are now,

- Richard, London, 16/12/2011 20:45
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Loada balls.
Like his government shows Christian kindness to the sick the lame the disadvantaged? Hypocrite.
The more you see of this guy, the clearer he gets... a snake-oil salesman; a slick PR man batting for vested interests.
How can any sensible person fall for his pious claptrap? Didn't you have enough of the Reverend Blair?

- Crazy Hippie, 10 Drowning Street SW1 1AA, 16/12/2011 20:22
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Like the way this news was presented with an advert for TOTEM with a performer whho looked like he had been crusified! Ah well as they say "god works in a mysterious way" or in this case the Standard Website editor - same thing I suppose!!!

Ah well David Cameron has proved that he is "Sarah Pallin in trousers!!" and their idea of how to run a government have the same parity!!

So how come Jesus threw out the money lendors while Cameron protected them with his veto?

Remember Relegion + Politics = WAR!!

And in camerons case it war on the poor - From him that have not shall be taken, from those that hath shall be given!.

Any other politician was to say what Cameron has said would face calls for their resignation and even charges against equality laws so why not Cameron?

- Melvyn Windebank, Canvey Island, Essex, 16/12/2011 20:15
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Tony, England

zero+zero=zero
zero-zero=zero

So, Cameron has lost zero from you.

- Anglo, The Heart of England, 16/12/2011 20:07
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I presume the sort of 'christian' values to which your PM refers are such noble virtues as compassion, forgiveness, regard for fellow man ie. a sense of community etc. As an athiest myself, I have nothing but admiration for those who are able to demonstrate such values. Whether you believe in this god or that one has no bearing on demonstrating such values. That is what I believe Cameron was saying and I say: well said, sir. BTW, you are much admired in these parts, particularly for your cojones in the face of Germano-Gallic grandstanding. A beacon of reason and common-sense.

- Ken Peters, Dublin, 16/12/2011 19:45
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Censored again - for pointing out that there's a difference between espousing a generic religion and finding merit in it's declared moral and ethical values. The only people who might be offended, if thin skinned enough, would be those incapable of such differentiation.

- Rogan, Irving, 16/12/2011 19:45
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This sounds like 'Back to Basics' (John Major et al.) and look how that ended up.

Christian values: like giving your money to the poor and not supporting big business and bankers?! There are many ways to interpret this.

- John, London, 16/12/2011 19:40
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The basis of morality is truth, otherwise it cannot even be defined. Faith - by definition - has no truth value. It therefore never has, and never can be the basis of either morality or ethics.

The morality of the Church of England was exemplified 1,020 years ago when the then Archbishop of Canterbury advised the then King to levy a tax to pay the Danes not to loot his churches. It hasn't improved much since.

- Dave S, London, 16/12/2011 19:33
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What a cheek this Tory scuzzbucket has.

Here is a PM who has pushed up taxes on the poorest, cut benefits to the poorest, attacks immigrants with gusto , yet he cuts taxes for the rich and protcts criminal bankers.

If Cam-sham espouses Christian values, then he should look at the rich man in the mirror.

- Terry the tube driver, London, 16/12/2011 19:28
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At last a political leader with something sensible to say. I admire his sane and pragmatic stance. Morals and self discipline have been severely depleted for too long and that is the actual root cause of many of the problems that we now suffer as a consequence.

- Sir Notso Stu Pidfool, London, 16/12/2011 19:19
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Good on you Dave!

- Daniel, london, 16/12/2011 19:17
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Give me a break Christian values to to die for country and god, war is evil and killing is evil and that is what the god religious have been doing ever since, I will stick with Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism, which has to do with the Mystic Law of Cause and Effect without time restrictions that means that all human beings are accountable for their thoughts, actions and deeds. Please read the Lotus Sutra interpreted by Nichiren Daishonin best English translation by Burton Watson, you can find it on the internet or at your local book store.

- jod, London, 16/12/2011 19:12
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The link between moral foundational weakness and sociocultural decline is very evident, so this is welcome news.

If there's one thing the recent upsurge of vitriolic atheism (the so-called "New Atheism") has accomplished very competently, it is to make contrarian opinions to their quasireligious cause somewhat respectable through their epistemological incompetence and philosophically naive rhetoric.

- Graham B, London, UK, 16/12/2011 19:09
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Why is it that no one noted that he was talking of Christian VALUES? Everyone either left upon the religious belief itself rather than what the precepts of that religion. One, the name suggesting a Moslem (apologies if my assumption is wrong) assumed it was saying ONLY christianity has moral values (what ever happened to the MOSLEM concept of 'people of the book', or however it was termed?) - you give yourself more credence if youn were to say that your religion agreed in principle with those values too rather than complaining that he didn't mention every other religion on Earth just to be politically correct.

The VALUES mentioned, whether they are actually held to or not, are about responsibility, honesty/integrity, helping others, diligence, and honest labour amongst others - THAT is what he's calling for, not everyone going to church on Sundays. If the athiests have a problem with these concepts, that's their problem. Ditto those scoring cheap political shots and those feeling defensive about their own religion of choice. Get a life!

- Rogan, Irving, 16/12/2011 18:56
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Will Sunday trading be banned? Surely this would be a good thing to bring back family values.

PS Cameron, tell those snail eating, frog leg munching neighbours of ours to go to and look at their own countries economy, honesty/integrity of leaders (current and past), and lack of commitment in past wars before slating us in GB who helped liberate their country!

- HarveyUK, London, 16/12/2011 18:44
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Cameron, stick to politics and leave the fairy tales to those who still believe in them.

There's a good chap...

- ID, South Coast, UK, 16/12/2011 18:30
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Dave, Hammersmith - Ken might like to put it about unlike Boris but not behind his wife's back.

- darren, newham, 16/12/2011 18:11
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Well Cameron and his pals will find it hard squeezing through the eye of a needle thats for sure

- cyclops10, London, 16/12/2011 18:10
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Great Prime Minister promoting Christian values. So why are you promoting 'Gay Marriage'?

- David, Farnham, 16/12/2011 18:04
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Lets be honest if there is a GOD would he let these
politicians that have caused the current problems
carry on ligning their own pockets,

- Mick, NORTHAMPTON, 16/12/2011 17:48
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I agree, let's all stand up for higher morality and better values, but if that means a tie up with religion then it'll go where the sun never shines as far as I'm concerned, I walked out of RE classes when I was 13 and not set foot on the dark side since, for 40 years I've seen absolutely nothing to convince me I was wrong, it's a bent and twisted fairy tale, better off without it.

- John Hardon, Watford, Herts, 16/12/2011 17:39
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"I am not a Christian and didn't vote to be gioverend by bishops.- richard, london"

Don't worry Richard.

In a decade or so when we have Shariah law in this country, you'll be complaining you didn't vote for it, but you can do it only once.

You'll never get a second chance with that lot in charge.

- John Smith, London, EUSSR, 16/12/2011 17:24
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Yes christain values says the man forcing African countries to legalize gay marriage what does he know about christain values.

- john, london, 16/12/2011 17:20
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The "slow motion moral collapse" Prime Minister is a direct consequence of (a) governments over the years (just like yours) who have said one thing in support of moral, etc values then do precisely nothing, do everything they can to undermine them or in fact do the exact opposite and (b) faith leaders (particularly Anglican) who pander to the soft, left wing masses for the sake of popularity or to increase minority followers and congregations.
I once failed an extremely important course because when asked by a cap and gowned academic why the "country was in the state it was", I replied, " because of a collapse in moral values".
Our society needs shaking by the scruff of it's neck from top to bottom and the Clegg's, Milliband's and Cameron's of this world together with their pathetic, treacherous and self seeking adherents and Anglican Bishops and Priests should be consigned to the rubbish bin of the world for what they have done to this country. Having had his few moments of talking rubbish, Cameron will be back to his old promise breaking, liberal, anti social ways before one can blink. Can't be trusted, can't be believed and quite unworthy of any sensible regard by decent people.

- M. Clift., Worcester., 16/12/2011 17:15
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Religion as caused more wars than anything else through history, does Ca-Moron really want to champion that? Christianity, like most religions, is blinkered nonsense, made up centuries ago when people knew no better. It's time these nutjobs grew up.

- collyp, London, 16/12/2011 17:13
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(my spelling is better than shown below - honestly!)

- richard, london, 16/12/2011 17:10
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Richard - there is no separation between church and state in the UK, that's an American concept. The Church of England is the established church; the monarch is its head as well as the country's head of state; the Palace of Westminster is a consecrated buidling, and parliamentary business starts every morning with prayers.

I'm not a Christian either, and I agree that morality does not require religion. I would also personally support disestablishing the church and separating church and state. But it's unfair to suggest that Cameron is saying anything unconstitutional here.

I also think he's right to identify moral decline in the UK. There's a lot government can do to make people responsible for the consequences of their actions; reducing the nanny state is vital in this regard.

I don't think that has anything to do with religion, but I also have no problem with the PM championing "responsibility, hard work, charity, compassion, humility, self-sacrifice, love, pride in working for the common good and honouring the social obligations we have to one another, to our families and our communities", or in acknowledging that these values happen to be the same as those taught in Christianity.

And Darren, I don't see what Cameron's electoral priority of supporting the conservative candidate in London's mayoral election has to do with this.

- Peter, UK, 16/12/2011 17:04
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If Cameron can't distinguish fact from fiction, how can he run a country?

- John, London, 16/12/2011 17:02
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So bang, there goes my vote Mr Cameroon, not that I have ever voted Conservative in my life, or that other great religious party, Labour. Alan, England., 16/12/2011 16:46 ======== LOL. Well you weren't going to vote for him anyway, were you, so it doesn't really matter does it.

- Tony, England, 16/12/2011 16:56
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I find the comparison of Boris and the morals of alley cats very insulting to alley cats

- Louis Statham, Salisbury Wiltshire, 16/12/2011 16:53
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Is he saying that to be able to distinguish right from wrong is purely a Christian trait? That the rest of us are unable to distinguish? What a Blair he is.

- Abdul Abulbul Amir, London, 16/12/2011 16:51
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Sounds like the Tea party to me. So bang, there goes my vote Mr Cameroon, not that I have ever voted Conservative in my life, or that other great religious party, Labour. Strange how those whos religion say's, ' thou shall not kill,' constantly through the ages take us to war. Sorry to bring that up Mr Blair and Bush. I thank him for his advice but prefer to read Christopher Hitchens, How Religion Poisons Everything, rather than the King James bible.

- Alan, England., 16/12/2011 16:46
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Thank god someone has said it. Be gone lefty liberal 'dont say anything to anyone' policies.. good work Dave..

- M, London, 16/12/2011 16:44
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And yesterday he was saying that his priority for 2012 was the re-election of Boris who has the morals of an alley cat.

- darren, newham, 16/12/2011 16:31

Lets not forget Ken's morals. He likes to put it about.

- Dave, Hammersmith, 16/12/2011 16:41
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He'll be telling us next that the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and other fairy tale characters really exist...

- Baron von Richtofen, Biggin Hill, 16/12/2011 16:41
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Well said

- kevin, london, 16/12/2011 16:39
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What happened to the separation between church and state?! I am not a Christian and didn't vote to be gioverend by bishops. This man is an idiot and a liability ot the functioning of a modern state of Britain. Resign. Morality should have nothing to do with religion.

- richard, london, 16/12/2011 16:37
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Good God ! A few quotes first from the article : standing up for Christian,slow-motion moral collapse,Islamist extremists. Christ its about time that someone pointed out who was reponsible for the moral collapse.... those who have no morals...wonder who he's talking about ?

- Edouard, Toulouse, France, 16/12/2011 16:33
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Oh dear, John Major went on a moral crusade, then Edwina Currie arrived, T Blair wentg on a Christian crusade to find his side kick Alastair Campbell came out to say 'we don't do religion' so is Mr Cameron tempting fate by mixing politics and religion.
Yes Christmas is on the horizon but we can't start start roping in religion to everyday life when we slag off countries for doing just that.
Good morals need no religious addition.

- Robert Marshall, London, 16/12/2011 16:32
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And yesterday he was saying that his priority for 2012 was the re-election of Boris who has the morals of an alley cat.

- darren, newham, 16/12/2011 16:31
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